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* Overall I agree with the assessment of Albinfo of 12:17, 20 March 2023, with a few exceptions, which I will comment in the above section. -- [[User:Mdd|Mdd]] ([[User talk:Mdd|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:12, 20 March 2023 (UTC) |
* Overall I agree with the assessment of Albinfo of 12:17, 20 March 2023, with a few exceptions, which I will comment in the above section. -- [[User:Mdd|Mdd]] ([[User talk:Mdd|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:12, 20 March 2023 (UTC) |
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* [[:File:CDO web chambre 003.jpg]] was released under a free license by the owners of the hotel, so this should be excluded. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]''' <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 23:40, 20 March 2023 (UTC) |
Revision as of 23:40, 20 March 2023
Files in Category:Hotel rooms in Switzerland
Unfortunately FOP laws in Switzerland don't cover images taken inside of buildings, which includes room interiors. So these are probably copyrighted unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary.
- File:3399 - Fiescheralp - Hotel Eggishorn.JPG
- File:Capsule Hotel Luzern 2.jpg
- File:CDO web chambre 003.jpg
File:Davos, Berghotel Schatzalp, Kaiserzimmer.jpgFile:Dolder Grand Hotel - Denkmalgeschützte Suite.jpgFile:Dolder Grand Hotel - Junior Suite mit Aussicht auf Zürich.jpgFile:Dolder Grand Hotel - Junior Suite.jpg- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4432.jpg
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4433.jpg
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4434.jpg
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4435.jpg
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4436.jpg
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4437.jpg
- File:Gold-Zimmer mit zurueckhaltender Farbgebung und Holzboden - panoramio.jpg
- File:Grand Hôtel Kempinski Genève - chambre.jpg
File:Hotel Room Mirror Selfie.jpg- Was signed in with wrong account for first comment. I own this image. I put it here for public use. By putting it on Wikimedia, I, as the image owner, authorized others to use it under the term set forth in the entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RubenGomezPhotography (talk • contribs) , 20 mrt 2023 19:15
- File:Hotelbett Gold-Zimmer - panoramio.jpg
- File:Ibis Styles Palexpo, Le Grand-Saconnex (BL7C0301-Pano).jpg
- File:Ibis Styles Palexpo, Le Grand-Saconnex (BL7C0312-Pano).jpg
File:Le Mirador Junior Suite.jpg- File:Loveroom Panorama Variante1.png
- File:Schreibtisch mit iHome Soundsystem und W-LAN im Platin-Zimmer - panoramio.jpg
- File:WikiCon 2018, St. Gallen (1Y7A2179).jpg
Adamant1 (talk) 03:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- No FOP in roms, say not all interior-Fotos are forbiten. No Art on Photos no Problems. 3 Beeds are never a problem. A Room with interior that are more then 100 Years old also. --Bobo11 (talk) 06:56, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm fine with excluding the images of the 100 year old room or whatever from the nomination if you want to point out which one they are. That said, other elements of the rooms can still be copyrighted. So can any remodels or parts of the room that were changed since the building was built. So it's not as simple as saying "the building is 100 years old. So FOP." It really depends on what else is in the image and what building it is. Also, the assortation that it only applies to art on photos is wrong. Other things are also copyrightable. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- No items with coyrigth in the Room -better on the photo-, no problems with this photo. A item musst have a threshold of originality, also the part of archidektur that are visiable. Most items in a hotelroom to not agree with the roules of copyright, or are attachment. --Bobo11 (talk) 09:37, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- So the painting in This image and this one don't meet the threshold of originality? Weird take, but OK. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:51, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- As Bobo11 said: FOP is only an exception of the copyright rule. Thus, there must be something that is protected by copyright – before you can talk about FOP, you have to proof that there is a copyright protected value. A plain room with a bed, two chairs and regular cupboard does not generate any copyright. --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- It would have been a lot better to vote keep and then do it with the cavate that you wanted the two files deleted. Now the nomination is essentially illegible. Good job. Can you please revert your edit and just do it how I've suggested? Otherwise people aren't going to be able to parse out your mess to figure out how to vote. Really, inserting new comments into other people's is dumb and shouldn't be done. Period. Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Never mind. I just deleted your comments. Please don't do that again. BTW, I also struck out the file for Berghotel Schatzalp, Davos since like both you say it was built in 1900. It would be good if the both you could come up with the dates the other hotels were built if your going to claim the architecture is free of copyright. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:49, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- You must not delete other persons comments!
- As each image is a different case, all images need to be treated seperately. My comments were clear – but know, nobody understands what you are doing here … Albinfo (talk) 16:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Never mind. I just deleted your comments. Please don't do that again. BTW, I also struck out the file for Berghotel Schatzalp, Davos since like both you say it was built in 1900. It would be good if the both you could come up with the dates the other hotels were built if your going to claim the architecture is free of copyright. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:49, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- It would have been a lot better to vote keep and then do it with the cavate that you wanted the two files deleted. Now the nomination is essentially illegible. Good job. Can you please revert your edit and just do it how I've suggested? Otherwise people aren't going to be able to parse out your mess to figure out how to vote. Really, inserting new comments into other people's is dumb and shouldn't be done. Period. Thanks. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- As Bobo11 said: FOP is only an exception of the copyright rule. Thus, there must be something that is protected by copyright – before you can talk about FOP, you have to proof that there is a copyright protected value. A plain room with a bed, two chairs and regular cupboard does not generate any copyright. --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- So the painting in This image and this one don't meet the threshold of originality? Weird take, but OK. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:51, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- No items with coyrigth in the Room -better on the photo-, no problems with this photo. A item musst have a threshold of originality, also the part of archidektur that are visiable. Most items in a hotelroom to not agree with the roules of copyright, or are attachment. --Bobo11 (talk) 09:37, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm fine with excluding the images of the 100 year old room or whatever from the nomination if you want to point out which one they are. That said, other elements of the rooms can still be copyrighted. So can any remodels or parts of the room that were changed since the building was built. So it's not as simple as saying "the building is 100 years old. So FOP." It really depends on what else is in the image and what building it is. Also, the assortation that it only applies to art on photos is wrong. Other things are also copyrightable. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry Adamant1, you just deleted 20 comments and votes by @Albinfo: , see below. I believe this is not fair and this not just, so I restored his comment here below. -- Mdd (talk) 16:18, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Comment and voted of Albinfo restored + further comments
- File:3399 - Fiescheralp - Hotel Eggishorn.JPG
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Capsule Hotel Luzern 2.jpg
- a special design, but no details to be recognized. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:CDO web chambre 003.jpg
- whatever this is: no value. delete for other reasons --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep This photo is of a series of 4 or 7 about the interior of the Hotel, and there is an additional OTRS/VRT permission present. -- Mdd (talk) 19:12, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- whatever this is: no value. delete for other reasons --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
* File:Davos, Berghotel Schatzalp, Kaiserzimmer.jpg
- File:Dolder Grand Hotel - Denkmalgeschützte Suite.jpg
- no special interior design recognisable in this room that is protected as cultural monument. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Dolder Grand Hotel - Junior Suite mit Aussicht auf Zürich.jpg
- Some expensive furniture. besides that no threshold of originality. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Dolder Grand Hotel - Junior Suite.jpg
- same. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Etagenbett-Zimmer mit Kajüten- bzw. Stockbetten - panoramio.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4432.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4433.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4434.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. or is the folding technique for the pillows copyright protected? keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4435.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4436.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Flughafen Zürich 1K4A4437.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Gold-Zimmer mit zurueckhaltender Farbgebung und Holzboden - panoramio.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Grand Hôtel Kempinski Genève - chambre.jpg
- is this image art? mass production, copied style, no originality. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Hotel Room Mirror Selfie.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Hotelbett Gold-Zimmer - panoramio.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Ibis Styles Palexpo, Le Grand-Saconnex (BL7C0301-Pano).jpg
- is this interior design copyright protected. I don't know. rather keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Ibis Styles Palexpo, Le Grand-Saconnex (BL7C0312-Pano).jpg
- same as above --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Lausanne Palace - salle de bains.jpg
- no threshold of originality in this room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Le Mirador Junior Suite.jpg
- not really a special interior design recognisable - just some expensive furniture put together. no threshold of originality. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Loveroom Panorama Variante1.png
- some art, probably a reprint to the left. delete --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Schreibtisch mit iHome Soundsystem und W-LAN im Platin-Zimmer - panoramio.jpg
- is this a hotel room or somebody's home? no threshold of originality in this corner. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:WikiCon 2018, St. Gallen (1Y7A2179).jpg
- no threshold of originality in this plain room. keep --Albinfo (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
End of section restored + Further comments
- Overall I agree with the assessment of Albinfo of 12:17, 20 March 2023, with a few exceptions, which I will comment in the above section. -- Mdd (talk) 19:12, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:CDO web chambre 003.jpg was released under a free license by the owners of the hotel, so this should be excluded. —howcheng {chat} 23:40, 20 March 2023 (UTC)