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File:Royal Standard of New Zealand.svg and others

This is a mess and I'm not sure where to go to start this process, but last year, someone did an improper cut-and-paste move on these files by downloading them and re-uploading them under new names as their "own work," after which the original files, their history, and the correct attributions were deleted as duplicates. Redirects currently exist at these locations.

--Ibagli (Talk) 11:32, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support That has happened to me a couple of times (one of which I caught before deletion and fixed). Restore the original uploads/credits. Possibly rename, or just make the newer names a redirect to the original one. Carl Lindberg (talk) 12:48, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

user:Ibagli There's a problem here which I cannot solve -- presumably this needs a "C" in the center, replacing the "E" on Elizabeth's flag. The deletion as a duplicate was, of course, wrong, as the current version of the flag belongs to Charles, not his mother and the two are not duplicates.

I have restored only New Zealand -- is what I did there what you want? If so, I will continue with the other four. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:05, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they all need to be undeleted, and then they'll have to be renamed/merged (not sure which would be more appropriate) to the locations where they had been redirecting (there's nothing wrong with the new file names, they were just reuploaded with no history and incorrect attribution).--Ibagli (Talk) 09:53, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure one of us understands. As I see it, there are two royal standards involved, that for Elizabeth and a new one for Charles, which we don't have. All we have for Charles is the version with the blank center. So there's no rename or merge involved, just taking the history back to just before the redirect. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:42, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no current royal standard for any of these countries (Canada might be announcing theirs in a week), as they were personal flags for Elizabeth II, who is dead. The "blank center" version is fictitious/speculative and was changed by one user who jumped the gun on deleting E and EIIR cyphers from everything immediately after Elizabeth II died. These speculative, unsourced changes were largely reverted by various users, but this resulted in the the existence of identical duplicate files and and the improper deletion of the older files rather than the newly-uploaded ones. I don't know what the best course of action to remedy this is, but I think it would be one of:

Undelete all of these files, delete the newly-uploaded ones, and move/merge these files to the 19XX-2022 names, leaving redirects that can be replaced with the Charles III flags when/if they are announced.
Undelete all of these files, leave them at the unchanged names with the E in the center and not the fictitious blank circle until/unless new flags are announced, and simply delete the newly-uploaded ones as newer identical duplicates.

In any case, whatever way it's achieved, the blank center versions shouldn't be on here at all at least until we get an indication that the new reign's flags will follow the old pattern, and the old history should be restored.--Ibagli (Talk) 16:31, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I assume the files should be at names where the years are specified, and the names without specification should be redirects. I assume they should point to the "E" versions until we have the new versions, not to break uses where using the old one is unproblematic. The history post 8 Sep should probably be moved to the "C" version just before uploading the new version, to keep the file history. –LPfi (talk) 17:37, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:KOLINLAMIL.png

File:KOLINLAMIL.png (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)

The file was deleted by @Ellywa: as part of Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Atara123, whereas he said "per nomination, although a link to Instagram has been provided, this does not show per COM:EVID that these logo's are available with a free license. Therefore the images must be deleted".

However on this particular file, I have personally fixed the problem, added the source (not from instagram) and fixed the license used. I did that to show @Atara123: on how to fix the problem, I also put strikethrough on the file on Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Atara123 to indicated that this file was no longer have any issue licensing. Therefore it should not be part of mass deletions. Ckfasdf (talk) 09:54, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ckfasdf, I looked again at this file. Indeed, you uploaded a different design of the logo then Atara12 did. However, the source you provided, https://kolinlamil.tnial.mil.id/images/misc/kolinlamil_logo.png , is not avaiable now. It can be seen at this youtube channel. Do you have another source which shows this can be freely licensed? Regards, Ellywa (talk) 10:25, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that you found it on the official Kolinlamil youtube channel and it also can easily be found on images related "Kolinlamil" proves that this is an official logo.

All military unit logo in Indonesia have been authorized to be used by highest command of each respective branches in the form of regulation and always with the same regulation of dictate the formation of that military unit. Refer to Article 42 of the 2014 Indonesia Copyright Act, file comes law acts and regulations are not copyrighted. hence PD-IDNoCopyright will apply. Kolinlamil is formed by regulation of "Skep Men/Kasal No. 5401.16", although that regulation may not be available online, it can still be verified to official Indonesian military source. hence, it should not be deleted.

Actually, this argument is also applies to military logo uploaded by Atara123, but he didn't put correct licensing. So yea.... Ckfasdf (talk) 01:38, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gloria Decker (1928-2017) and Charles Frederick Lindauer (1919-2005) at Christmas.png

I believe I didn't close one of the brackets on the license. --RAN (talk) 14:09, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The problem was missing information: if the author is an "Anonymous family member", how can you know who the heirs are? --rimshot^talk 16:46, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was either my father or my mother, either way the license is valid. The other images in the set have my parents and other family members paired up.

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): Why did you reupload this file out of process? I am not sure we have necessary evidence of a free license here. Yann (talk) 08:57, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The log says it was deleted because of the absence of a license, not a challenge to the validity of the existing license. The template was malformed because I left off a closing bracket "}". Generally we do not require probate lawyers legal testimony for family images. I could see requiring that for well known commercial images, where someone is claiming to be the heir of a famous commercial photographer, not for some holiday snaps of family members. --RAN (talk) 15:54, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- While undeleting, administrators need to verify copyright status and other potential issues, not only the deletion reason. Ankry (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ana Torin, 2023 (Toma vertical).jpg

Solicito la restauración de la imagen en cuestión. No entiendo por qué la eliminan si en la consulta de borrado tiene tres Manténgase. Agradezco su colaboración. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuchoVCJMuzik (talk • contribs) 14:41, 23 May 2023‎ (UTC)[reply]

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Support See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ana Torin, 2023 (Toma vertical).jpg. I don't think we need all of the various versions of this image -- but let's restore one. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:28, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently there is Ticket:2023041310012681 for this image. What does it say? --Rosenzweig τ 21:53, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosenzweig, The ticket mentions three files viz: File:Renny_Manzano_en_Jesús_Villarreal_en_Bogotá,_2019.jpg, File:Ana_Torin,_2023_(Shot_vertical).jpg and File:Ana_Torin,_2023_(Shot_horizontal).jpg. The ticket is open and needs attention from agents who know Spanish. I feel all the files can be restored once the permission is verified and approved. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 05:15, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose the horizontal one should be the one rightly linked on DR. File:Ana Torin, 2023 (Toma horizontal).jpg. Nonetheless, I

Oppose restoration prior to successful VRT verification. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 05:17, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose restoring File:Renny_Manzano_en_Jesús_Villarreal_en_Bogotá,_2019.jpg as it is essentially a personal image. Bedivere (talk) 15:15, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Public Domain Mark files

These files have the public domain mark licence (PDM) on Flickr. The public domain mark is now acceptable on Commons (COM:PDM). (Note: I have made this request due to a request on my talk page by @Docosong)

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* File:Catalunya - Montenegro (Foto Ricard Rovira - FCBQ) (42302667652).jpg

Matr1x-101 {user - talk? - useless contributions} 15:46, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The files were declared PDM by FCBQ, not by the actual photographers. IMO, in order to accept this, we need an evidence that the photographers transferred their copyright to FCBQ or that they declared PD status of the photo themselves. Also, the author of the photos is declared as FCBQ: this probably violates the photographers' moral rights (but this is fixable). Any evidence that Pol Puertas and Ricard Rovira were regular empoyee of FCBQ? Ankry (talk) 22:40, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ricard Rovira independent photographer FCBQ (2003-2019).-- Docosong (talk) 05:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support My general approach to copyright transfers is: If an organization is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article, then we can assume that it sufficiently has its act together with respect to copyright that we don't need to see the detailed terms of the contract it has with its photographers. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:01, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per KoH. Quite a reasonable criteria. Yann (talk) 08:06, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I am not convinced here as in my opinion, PDM set by non-author might mean that the uploader is unsure if they own copyright (and can grant any license) or they just have a wide permission to use (and they do not know if any restriction applies). However, Neutral if there is consensus to undelete. Ankry (talk) 01:04, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral I was going to oppose this, as COM:PDM specifically talks about authors marking their own work with the PDM, and the template {{PD-author-FlickrPDM}} says "This work has been released into public domain by the author, on the Flickr website ...". I thought we wanted to accept the PDM only in these cases, but now I see that King of Hearts created {{PDMark-owner}} in 2020, apparently based on a discussion consensus, so this would be applicable, I guess. KoH, shouldn't {{PDMark-owner}} also be mentioned in COM:PDM, then? Gestumblindi (talk) 09:09, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Новогоднаяя почтовая открытка СССР, фото В. Корабельникова, 1990, лицевая сторона.png

This is a follow up to the undeletion request for File:Почтовая открытка СССР "С Новым годом", фото Е. Савалова, 1986, лицевая сторона.png and a few others related to postal cards and/or postal stationery of the Soviet Union where the images were undeleted. What it essentially comes down to is that Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Russia makes it clear that postal cards published by the Russian Post are in the public domain. Even in cases where they might contain otherwise copyrighted works. There is no stipulation in the guidelines or the law at least from I've seen that the prevision makes an exception depending on which side of the postal card the image is of. The law merely says "postal cards" are in the public domain. So the image should be undeleted since it's clearly in the public domain. The same goes for the following images, which were all deleted in Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Postal cards of the Soviet Union with definitive stamp.

--Adamant1 (talk) 09:41, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Doing… Yann (talk) 10:08, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Mother & Child by Caroline Durieux.jpg

The reason for this undeletion is that the image in question is a photograph of a work of 2D art by Caroline Durieux, thereby falling within US public domain.

--LC Cook (talk) 15:23, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose While it is possible that the work is PD -- I don't see a copyright notice -- the reason given is not a reason why it would be PD. Unless it can be proven that the work was published without notice before March 1, 1989, we must assume that the photograph infringes on the copyright owned by Durieux's heirs.

Note that User:LC Cook is a sock of the uploader, User:Eretif. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 16:01, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:DaMaris-Hill-1.jpg

I initially uploaded these images with the wrong permissions. I was explicitly granted permission by the author, DaMaris B. Hill, to use the photos of herself and her book covers. In fact, I was hired by her to create her Wikipedia page. Please undelete the photos so I can use them for her biography page. Mahal AU (talk) 19:05, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose There are a variety of problems here.

First, a warning: paid editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. You must disclose your status, see Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Second, it is unlikely that Ms. Hill has the right to freely license any of the images above. It is very unusual for a photographer to give a subject the right to freely license images to others. Licenses are almost always limited to the subject's using the image in their own publicity.

In order for the first image, the photo of Ms. Hill, to be restored, the photographer, Beowulf Sheehan, must send a free license using VRT.

In the case of the three book covers, the copyright holder, which is usually the publisher, but may be the designer, must send a free license also using VRT. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:48, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Section photographique et cinématographique de l’armée

I believe these meet the requirement of being anonymous/pseudononymous. --RAN (talk) 20:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose In the interaction between you and User:Le Petit Chat in the DR, they explain that there is an accession code which, in most cases, leads directly to the name of the photographer. While a few of them may be anonymous, most are, apparently, not. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:49, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose For anonymous/pseudononymous works copyright expiration term depends on publication date that has not been provided. Ankry (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment At least some photographers are really unknown. It is quite probable that many named photographers died before 1953, but a lot of work is needed to research them. I suggest that some images to be temporarily undeleted if anyone is really willing to do that work. Yann (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The undeletion discussion in the following section is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive.

File:Alan_Walker_&_Gavin_James_-_Tired.jpg‎

此為中文維基百科的Infrobox需求，需要用到整張圖片，煩請維基百科官方協助復原 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Casper0517013 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 6 June 2023‎ (UTC)[reply]

Info Google Translate: "This is the Infrobox requirement of the Chinese Wikipedia, which needs to use the entire picture, please ask the official Wikipedia to help restore it"

Oppose Fair use from en:File:Alan Walker Tired.jpg. Thuresson (talk) 12:40, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Fair use is not permitted on Commons. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:18, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The undeletion discussion in the following section is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive.

File:Alan Walker and Ava Max - Alone, Pt. II.png

此圖為中文維基百科(不孤單第二章)的Infrobox 需求，請求維基百科官方取消刪除 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Casper0517013 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 6 June 2023‎ (UTC)[reply]

Info Google Translate: "This picture is the Infrobox requirement of Chinese Wikipedia (Chapter 2 of Not Alone), requesting the official Wikipedia to cancel the deletion"

Oppose Fair use from en:File:Alan Walker and Ava Max - Alone, Pt. II.png. Thuresson (talk) 12:43, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Fair use is not permitted on Commons. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:18, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The undeletion discussion in the following section is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive.

File:DonitaRoseNewPicture.jpg

Hello! The picture belongs to the person identified in the Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donita_Rose . Donita asked me to change her Wikipedia profile picture, for she could not figure out how to do it herself. She is not a Wikipedia technical-editor expert. Donita's Facebook URL is https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=donita%20rose%20palad . She got married in 2022. Here married last-name is "Palad." Her full married name is "Donita Rose Cavett Palad". Donita's personal email address is (Redacted). Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lloydboucher (talk • contribs) 04:26, 6 June 2023‎ (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose When you uploaded the image, you claimed that you were the actual photographer. Now you say that is not the case. Please understand that making false claims is a serious violation of Commons rules and may lead to your being blocked from editing here.

Owning a paper or digital copy of an image very rarely gives one the right to freely license it as required here. That right almost always remains with the photographer. In order for this image to be restored to Commons, the actual photographer must send a free license using VRT. . Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:59, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: We need a permission coming directly from the copyright holder. See Jim's comment for details. --De728631 (talk) 13:41, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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