Commons:Requests and votes/MGA73

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MGA73

 Support = 13;  Oppose = 4 This vote meets the necessary requirement and therefore passes. User:MGA73 is now an administrator.

Closing bureaucrat rationale:Even if we discount the 13th pro as Cecil mentions below, leaving it at 75%, I'm willing to err on the side of AGF; also the fact that the user is an administrator on another project is a consideration. I'm reading this as a general willingness to allow MGA73 to have the tools. I suggest MGA73 contribute more to Commons namespace.

MGA73

Vote

Links for MGA73: MGA73 (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth)

Hi everyone! My name is Michael and I'm from the Danish Wikipedia. My reason for requesting administrator ship is that I would like to help clean up on Commons. For example there are currently 1,283 files in Category:Duplicate and there are probably more than that not marked. When all duplicates are there is a lot of files without proper source/permission. On dawiki we would like more administrators that speak Danish, and since I check all new uploaded files on dawiki and move a lot of our checked files to Commons I find it natural that I volunteer. MGA73 (talk) 16:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A little extra information: I'm an admin on dawiki. --MGA73 (talk) 20:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Votes

  •  Support I was the one making him do the request. As I am less active on da: now it would be good with another Danish admin here. --|EPO| da: 16:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support - We need more danish admins on Commons - Nico-dk (talk) 16:37, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is a hard call, at least in my view. You're a good contributor, but at the same time you've been active here for less then a month. I've come to the conclusion to  support you, which was a hard call. Though, you're already trusted as a da.wiki admin, and you have a good record here and on da.wiki. Please be careful in the start, and ask if you need any help! I'm sure you will do just fine after a bit more time. --Kanonkas(talk) 20:10, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose. Sorry. I don't see anything wrong with the contributions you have made so far, but I think more time is needed to gain broader experience. Virtually all of your edits are in File: space, with only 25 so far in Commons: space - and those show an involvement in only a very few deletion requests, nothing else. You have interacted so far with only two other users on their talk pages. I would like to see a broader base of activity here, and more time for people to get to know you and for you to demonstrate that you are comfortable with Commons policies and with copyright issues. Less than a month of activity here is really very little. A couple more and I am sure you will be fine and will be successful. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 21:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support, Multichill (talk) 22:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support - Zil (d) 23:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support per nomination. Durova (talk) 00:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose. I'm sure there will be no problems in the areas you say you are interested in and say you will be active in, however there is lack of evidence of experience in other areas.KTo288 (talk) 05:37, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per KTo288 & MichaelMaggs I think. Good work so far but not enough experience across namespaces/processes yet. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 08:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Does good work. His length of service is a valid concern, but looking over his edits, I don't see anything to make me pause. If this passes, take it easy, don't plunge into sysop work. Only work in areas you're comfortable at first, and gradually thaw out as your sysop experience progresses. PeterSymonds (talk) 14:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Sorry, but not experienced enough yet. Continue with your good work and try it again later. --Leyo 17:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I have the advantage of being able to read da:Brugerdiskussion:MGA73, and what I saw there convinced me to come down from the fence with a supportvote. I agree that his lenght of service at Commons is indeed a valid concern, but he shows himself at da:wiki as a good communicator and an admin who deals with mediafiles committedly and correctly. I know it is the contributions here at Commons that's the testing ground for adminship here, but in this case the da:wiki contribs moved me from uncertain to support. If this request passes it will have to be a little bit "learning by doing" at Commons, if it fails I certainly hope to see a new request for this user soon. Med venlig hilsen Finn Rindahl (talk) 18:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support From his admin-work on dawiki I know that MGA73 is extraordinary responisble and very good in putting oil on troubled waters and in seeking consensus. On dawiki, he is highly active in policy and deletion discussions. In the article and file namespaces, he is doing a great job in categorization, spotting weak licenses and fighting vandalism. As a fresh Commons-admin, he would know when to ask before using his admin tools. I hope he'll apply for an OTRS account as well. We really need more Danish-speaking Commons-admins! Nillerdk (talk) 08:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support We definitely lack Danish-speaking admins here on the Commons. Personally, I think almost every Wikimedia sysop could do a good job here. You can help, and got my support. odder 00:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Motopark (talk) 14:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support handling duplicate is not difficult and MGA73 will learn other parts of commons policy while handling these categories. Phe (talk) 19:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support--Giants27 T/C 20:35, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

* Oppose - per - MichaelMaggs - Abigor talk 17:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Comments

 Question About copyright (not quality), those two pictures : one taken inside, one taken outside of the Louvre, Paris, France which one could I upload on commons ? - Zil (d) 23:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first one is a picture of en:Mona Lisa. The painter en:Leonardo da Vinci died in 1519 so legally it is ok. Even if en:Louvre does not like that pictures are taken inside we do not care. The license is http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en which is allowed on Commons and the user seems to be the author. The mark in the corner is on all the pictures and there are several pictures of a museum trip. So you can upload it on Commons.
The second one is a picture of the pyramid outside Louvre. It is a very nice picture but France has no freedom of panorama. So because the pyramid is the object it is a no go. License and author seemed ok but that does not help. --MGA73 (talk) 23:55, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Just a small comment to MichaelMaggs and KTo288. I know I'm still new on Commons and that it may be hard to see if I know about copyright or Commons policies since most of my copyright issues are on dawiki and therefore in Danish. As I mentioned I'm checking the new pictures on dawiki and I belive that all old pictures should also be checked, so I do see and check a lot of files.

In my view it is also ok to pick out an area and focus there. As I mentioned there seems to be a lot of duplicates that needs attention and I think it's a good place for me to start. All other jobs are important too, so it's not that I don't believe that is not important to update policies or patrol new files etc. But my experience from dawiki tells me, that there are many people that like to check for and stop vandalism (I of course will stop and clean up vandalism if I find it) but fewer that would spend time doing cleanup. MGA73 (talk) 08:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I said I'm sure you'll do well in your specific area of interest, but you are asking for authority and resposibility for all areas.KTo288 (talk) 23:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That is correct - an admin is a user with some extra tools - not necessarily a professor in law. As an admin I will have access to a wide area. I would be able to delete files, change protected pages etc. (just like on da-wiki). So it is up to you to decide whether you trust that I will not delete images without reason and templates and change code that I do not understand. I don't blame you for being careful - I just offer my assistance. --MGA73 (talk) 08:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It has said I lack experience. That’s true if you only look at Commons (only 961 edits). Edit counters seems to be down but I found these (old?) numbers:

Since I'm new at Commons I will of course be careful and seek help when I'm in doubt. --MGA73 (talk) 18:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it says nominations usually remain for seven days - if the 'crats feel like wating to get as many opinions as possible in such a close race that's OK with me. Regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 14:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Problem is, the result is 76,47% (75% are necessary). And the last support-vote (which actually happended after the 7-days-period) which was the one to bring it in the positive area is from somebody who has 31 edits (17 to design his userpage/signature) and registered only yesterday. I seriously doubt that user Giants27 has much knowledge about Commons and the activities of MGA73 here on Commons. Without this vote it is exactly 75% and that's a situation I would not want to decide alone, especially since the oppose-votes are concerning experience of the user. -- Cecil (talk) 15:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If I was running for president I was allowed to vote for myself. And in that case you should add 1 positive vote to your numbers ;-) Anyway I'm happy that the concerns are the number of my edits on Commons and not something else. Of course I hope that a conclusion will be made soon. --MGA73 (talk) 16:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(indent)I do see the difficulties in deciding the outcome of this. With the vote being so close, may I suggest that a 'crat either specifically close for new votes or set a specific time limit for when it will be closed. Then the 'crats can have a discission and reach a conclusion on what the actual outcome of this should be interpreted as. Regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 18:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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