Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/03/Category:Chelonoidis nigra abingdoni

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Chelonoidis nigra abingdoni - or - Chelonoidis abingdonii. There are two categories for one species. - Kersti (talk) 10:42, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

same for: Category:Chelonoidis nigra chathamensis, Category:Chelonoidis chathamensis
same for: Category:Chelonoidis nigra becki, Category:Chelonoidis becki

--Kersti (talk) 12:43, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like English Wikipedia has decided to switch these from subspecies to species (following the predominance of recent sources). I guess we should do the same. Kaldari (talk) 00:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree and changed the categories. As there are no live Chelonoidis nigra since ca. 1850, all fotos of life animals are from other species and should be sorted accordingly. Kersti (talk) 22:26, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be OK. Can we close this discussion, @Kersti Nebelsiek and Kaldari: ?--Estopedist1 (talk) 14:02, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't notice this discussion when I switched the species back to subspecies earlier today. However, I do think my edits can be substantiated. The Reptile Database, the Turtle Taxonomy Working Group, and the English Wikipedia have reclassified Chelonoidis niger as a species with several subspecies. This is apparently based on a study, according to which Chelonoidis niger diverged only recently. The classification of the Galápagos tortoises has been a lot of switching back and forth, but let's hope that a consensus is reached in the scientific community. That consensus is obviously what will be followed here, and the current situation seems to stand in favor of one species with multiple subspecies. --Paranaja (talk) 15:45, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]