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:''Unfortunately, per http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-May/029782.html, I must '''decline''' this nomination as I do not meet the age requirement in the jurisdiction that I currently live in. --[[User:Az1568|Az1568]]<sup> ([[User talk:Az1568|Talk]])</sup> 02:46, 1 May 2007 (UTC)''
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=={{usercheck|Az1568}} (Removal of adminstrator)==
{{closed|Kept while active in April 2024 without consensus to remove or prejudice.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jusjih|contribs]]) 01:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)}}
Does not meet the [[Wikibooks:Administrators#Expectations|administrator expectation]] (''Administrators are expected to be active (see sysop activity on Wikibooks). There are no hard and fast definitions on what it means to be "active" but the general expectation for nomination of desysopship is the lack of activity for a year. Administrators who are not using privileges, those privileges provided by the community due to the user's knowledge and activity, do not need to continue having them. Administrators do not have a "lifetime membership" and are expected to continually use their tools for the good of the community.'') Last edit on 3 January 2023 and last logged action on 21 January 2023. --[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]] ([[User talk:Ameisenigel|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ameisenigel|contribs]]) 10:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
: '''Disagree''' I don't support this policy. Unless there is a security concern or the user requests it.--[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 05:49, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
:{{re|Ameisenigel}} Late response, but were the users in question notified? --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 09:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
::I notified the two users in question. If they don't respond, we'll have to request on [[m:SRP]]. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/SHB2000|contribs]]) 09:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
:::I don't have an opinion either way. As I said the last time this came up, if the community feels that I'm no longer meeting expectations, I won't oppose their decision. --[[User:Az1568|Az1568]] ([[User talk:Az1568|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Az1568|contribs]]) 10:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
:I disagree with the removal. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 16:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{question}} I don't have a strong opinion either way, and thank you to @[[User:Az1568|Az1568]] for cleaning out the speedy deletion candidates just now! My question, though, is policy-related. If the policy says that admins must be active, are we not obligated to either follow the policy or seek to officially amend it (instead of simply disregarding it)? I just want to make sure we're going about things in a responsible way and are held properly accountable to community guidelines. Cheers! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 22:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
::That is why I was a little confused with the two opposes. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leaderboard|contribs]]) 03:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
: This is Wikibooks, not Wikipedia. Here we use common sense and reasoning rather than blindly following policies. I have always opposed strict policies as can be seen in my 19 years of edits.--[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
::I can understand that, and I do agree that blindly following a bad policy is the wrong way to cultivate a functional community. However, if we disagree with aspects of a policy, I feel like we should seek consensus and amend the policy to improve it instead of just ignoring policies we don't like—we should work together to make sure the policies do reflect common sense and community values. As such, could you clarify why exactly you disagree with the admin activity requirements? Thanks! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 17:38, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
::I already have. I said I don't support this policy unless there is a security issue (has his password been compromised?) or the user requests it.--[[User:Xania|Xania]] [[Image:Flag_of_Estonia.svg|15px]] [[Image:Flag_of_Ukraine.svg|15px]] [[User talk:Xania|<sup>talk</sup>]] 00:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:::The policy is an inactivity policy. With notification, Az1568 returned to activity - as they do from time-to-time. So, I opposed the removal on the basis that they remain active. The point of the policy is not to slavish remove access when exactly X number of days is reached, but to ensure that rights are only retained by those using them. Or, as I often say, the point of the process is not to follow the process. Rather, the point of the process is to achieve the outcome that the process is intended to achieved. The purpose of this process is to ensure rights are only retained by those who need them. That purpose has been achieved. [[User:MarcGarver|MarcGarver]] ([[User talk:MarcGarver|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarcGarver|contribs]]) 12:37, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Ah, I see—that makes sense to me. Thanks for the clarification! —[[User:Kittycataclysm|Kittycataclysm]] ([[User talk:Kittycataclysm|discuss]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kittycataclysm|contribs]]) 12:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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