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==== [[Template:Composer sidebar]] ====
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* {{Tfd links|Composer sidebar}}▼
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==== [[Module:Naval Vessel Register URL/rules]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''Delete'''; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#880">⚡</span>]] 08:07, 30 October 2020 (UTC)<!-- Tfd top -->
* {{Tfd links|Naval Vessel Register URL/rules|module=Module:}}
No longer used after [[Special:Diff/799049703]] [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 20:19, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Sclass]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''merge'''<!-- Tfd top -->. Along the lines of Trappist and Gonnym. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 16:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|Sclass|module=|type=merge}}
* {{Tfd links|Sclass-|module=|type=merge}}
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'''Propose merging''' [[Template:Sclass]] with [[Template:Sclass-]] and
[[Template:Sclass2]] with [[Template:Sclass2-]] <br />
Templates for linking to X-class Y such as {{
:It was intended that {{tlx|sclass-}} and {{tlx|sclass2-}} live short lives; that once all of the ship-class article titles had been properly hyphenated, {{tnull|sclass}} and {{tnull|sclass2}} should be updated to link to hyphenated article titles and {{tnull|sclass-}} and {{tnull|sclass2-}} redirected to {{tnull|sclass}} and {{tnull|sclass2}}. Further, it was intended that the {{tnull|sclass-}} and {{tnull|sclass2-}} redirect transclusions should be replaced with {{tnull|sclass}} and {{tnull|sclass2}} through normal maintenance until the redirects were no longer needed at which point the redirects would be deleted.
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 14:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* Sclass and Sclass2 only have 1 mainspace usages, which seems to mean that all ship-class article titles have been hyphenated. Per Trappist the monk's response that the intent was for the Sclass- and Sclass2- to be temporarily, I support a two step solution: Change Sclass and Sclass2 code to match the hyphenated versions then replace all usages of the hyphenated versions with the non-hyphenated template name. --[[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 14:45, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* And now thousands of articles are rendered unreadable by this proposal - these templates are designed to be used inline so you are breaking the articles - please fix this.[[User:Nigel Ish|Nigel Ish]] ([[User talk:Nigel Ish|talk]]) 22:23, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:RFARcasenav]] ====
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==== [[Template:Loc]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top --> after replacing usages with {{t|Country study}}, or an alternate template as appropriate. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 11:18, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|Loc}}
Notice that text from a Library of Congress Country Study is used in an article, which is deprecated in favor of {{tl|Country study}}. While replacement will take significant manual work, the template should be placed in the [[WP:TFDH|holding cell]] so it won't be forgotten and there is a clear consensus in favor for the replacement. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 13:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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* '''Delete''' I disagree with the principle of keeping templates around as deprecated indefinitely. If a template should not be used, and is not used, then there's no point in having a template. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 13:14, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' We should be replacing this with footnotes that tie the specific text copied to the reference. See, for example, [[Forestry in Chad]]. I agree that {{tl|Loc}} is a terrible, but {{tl|country study}} is only marginally better. [[User:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]] ([[User talk:Calliopejen1|talk]]) 20:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
*:{{u|Calliopejen1}}, proper usage of templates in [[:Category:Attribution templates]] is to use them for copyright attribution, but to also include inline referencing. This is however often missed and should probably be clearer from documentation and possibly preview only text as well. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 20:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
*::I disagree with this approach, but that is a topic for broader discussion. Putting copyright attribution in places other than footnotes is not legally required and simply results in cluttery attribution templates that are never removed, even when the underlying content is. No need to respond here; I'll address this somewhere better than this deletion discussion. [[User:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]] ([[User talk:Calliopejen1|talk]]) 20:32, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
*:::FYI, I looked at how {{tl|country study}} was actually being used, and it's almost always just used in a footnote like a normal citation, even though it was kind of oddly formatted for that. I changed its formatting so that it's in line with other citation templates, with {{tl|PD-notice}} at the end. I still think it's a kludgy way to cite (the parameters the template accepts aren't great, and {{tl|cite encyclopedia}} is better than {{tl|cite book}}, which {{tl|country study}} is based on, for this) but I withdraw my overall objection to {{tl|country study}}. It's definitely a step in the right direction... [[User:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]] ([[User talk:Calliopejen1|talk]]) 06:16, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Dispute-resolution/medcom]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''Delete'''; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#880">⚡</span>]] 08:07, 30 October 2020 (UTC)<!-- Tfd top -->
* {{Tfd links|Dispute-resolution/medcom}}
Unused and deprecated sidebar redundant to {{tl|Dispute-resolution}}. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 12:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' there is an existing dispute resolution template, this is unused, and I don't see the benefit in retaining this template for historical purposes. --[[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 20:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 13:14, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Assessed]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->. — [[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]] <small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 17:50, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|Assessed}}
Deprecated talk page banner informing users that the article was assessed for quality a specific week. The problem with this is that no one cares about this, especially since they were all added circa 2006. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 12:54, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' definitely delete this. Millions of articles are now assessed; there's no need to note on a template that this happened in a week in 2006, and it certainly adds clutter wherever it is. --[[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 20:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom and Tom. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 01:34, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
*'''Query''' {{ping|Trialpears}} should this not be added to {{t|Article history}}, since the reviews did have their own subpages? Or, is it not worthwhile? [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 11:14, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Add-desc-S]] ====
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* {{Tfd links|Add-desc-S|module=|type=merge}}▼
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* {{Tfd links|Add-desc-I|module=|type=merge}}▼
The result of the discussion was '''relisted'''<!-- Tfd top --> on [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 October 30#Template:Add-desc-S|2020 October 30]]. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 11:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:AMEX link]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->. Deleted by Fastily (bot isn't processing the close for some reason). <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 16:37, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|AMEX link}}
Unused version of [[Template:NYSE American]]. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 11:10, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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* '''Comment''' it is not superseeded. Like all the other templates in [[:Category:Ticker symbol templates - link only]] the purpose is to provide a link directly to the exchanges website with nothing else. [[Template:NYSE American]] is for use in inline text and info boxes. The other templates in that category are often used usually in tables where just the link is better suited. This template might find use in the future too. --[[User:Svgalbertian|Svgalbertian]] ([[User talk:Svgalbertian|talk]]) 01:32, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
** What future exactly? It was created 8 years ago and its unused. That should tell you something. --[[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 12:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
**:Maybe it's just unused at present? Maybe this template was used 2 weeks ago, as well, and isn't currently, and may be in a few more weeks? Some/most of the ones in the cat only have a couple of usages themselves. This nomination of one template seems to make the argument that nothing in [[:Category:Ticker symbol templates - link only]] should be kept (as they'd ''all'' be duplicates of their full-version), yet not all are nominated, so we can't really have a real discussion on whether they're all worthless or not. [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 20:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 13:14, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:2014 MAAC men's soccer standings]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->. Deleted by Fastily (bot isn't processing the close for some reason). <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 16:37, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|2014 MAAC men's soccer standings}}
Unused in the article(s) it can be used, so either the community does not want it or it should be added. It should also be noted that since the bundled nomination a year and a half ago, it's still unused. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 11:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Seems that a slightly simpler version: {{tl|2014 Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference men's soccer standings}} is used in [[2014 NCAA Division I men's soccer season]]. [[User:Nigej|Nigej]] ([[User talk:Nigej|talk]]) 20:59, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Point Cook Football Club]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 14:18, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|Point Cook Football Club}}
The template isn't really needed as the club is notable enough. [[User:HawkAussie|HawkAussie]] ([[User talk:HawkAussie|talk]]) 07:58, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' this club really isn't notable enough; the navbox links to another team. --[[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 20:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' Just confusing. As noted above, many of the links are to a different team altogether. [[User:Nigej|Nigej]] ([[User talk:Nigej|talk]]) 21:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:SubTable]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:ProcrastinatingReader|ProcrastinatingReader]] ([[User talk:ProcrastinatingReader|talk]]) 14:17, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|SubTable}}
Unused template with no documentation or clear purpose. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 06:53, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom. No purpose and unused. --[[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 20:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 13:14, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
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