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I would like to know what these 15 principles are. If they can not be put in the article, could we have a link to them? [[Special:Contributions/66.201.56.88|66.201.56.88]] ([[User talk:66.201.56.88|talk]]) 00:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:The founding principles state explicitly that the Rhodesian Front was a white supremacist party. While this was not contentious at the time, the references to furthering domination of the European race in Rhodesia at the expense of Native races is making some contributors nervous. [[User:MTM-2k|MTM-2k]] ([[User talk:MTM-2k|talk]]) 14:38, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
== Dissolved ==
The party changed its name in 1981 - it was not dissolved.[[User:Royalcourtier|Royalcourtier]] ([[User talk:Royalcourtier|talk]]) 20:10, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
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Should "White supremacy" be included in the "Ideology" list of the Infobox? --[[User:TU-nor|T*U]] ([[User talk:TU-nor|talk]]) 09:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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After having been reverted several times in spite of adding gradually more sources in support of the addition, I feel the need to get input from more editors. --[[User:TU-nor|T*U]] ([[User talk:TU-nor|talk]]) 09:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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*'''Include''': The reasons given for removal has been {{tq|The Rhodesian Front was not white supremacist}}, {{tq|calling them "White Supremacists" is misleading}} and similar statements. Wikipedia does, however, not base its content on the opinion of editors. but on [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], and there seems to be no lack of sources that describe the party as "White Supremacist". Here are but a few:<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Leaver |first1=John David |title=Multiracialism and nationalisms: A political retrospective on 1950s Southern Rhodesia ('Colonial Zimbabwe') |journal=Journal of Third World Studies |date=2006 |volume=23 |issue=2 |pages=167-188 |url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/45194313?seq=1 |accessdate=26 March 2020}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |author1=Donal Lowry |authorlink1= |editor1-last=Onslow |editor1-first=Sue |title=Cold War in Southern Africa: White Power, Black Liberation |date=2009 |publisher=Routledge |location=New York |isbn=978-0-415-47420-7 |page=84 |url=https://books.google.no/books?id=Xj-MAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=%22rhodesian+front%22+white+supremacy&source=bl&ots=adB0vbAETk&sig=ACfU3U1w_7Oy9Fh_6tyE-EUUDxJybVFoNQ&hl=no&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi935DjiNfoAhWK6aYKHfidBloQ6AEwF3oECCoQLg#v=onepage&q=%22rhodesian%20front%22%20white%20supremacy&f=false |accessdate=7 April 2020 |chapter=The impact of anti-communism on white Rhodesian political culture, c.1920s-1980}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |last1=Cilliers |first1=Jakkie |title=Counter-Insurgency in Rhodesia |date=April 17, 2015 |publisher=Routledge |location=London |isbn=9781315713854 |edition=e-Book 1st |url=https://books.google.no/books?id=VHRKCAAAQBAJ&pg=PT18&lpg=PT18&dq=%22rhodesian+front%22+%22white+supremacy%22&source=bl&ots=xY764B57Om&sig=ACfU3U0pyFEGUGJr0dA8gDi-5cQkd3vtNA&hl=no&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjtn7WqmdvoAhUQqYsKHSaOCVkQ6AEwEHoECC4QPQ#v=onepage&q=%22rhodesian%20front%22%20%22white%20supremacy%22&f=false |accessdate=9 April 2020}}</ref><ref>{{cite book|last=Loney|first=Martin|url=https://books.google.it/books?id=Jn50AAAAMAAJ|title=Rhodesia, white racism and imperial response|editor=Penguin|date=1975}}</ref><ref>{{cite book|last=Meredith|first=Martin|url=https://books.google.it/books?id=xXN0AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT426&dq=rhodesian+front+white+rule&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjEspmYp-3bAhXJECwKHWwrBAQQ6AEIODAC#v=onepage&q=rhodesian%20front%20white%20rule&f=false|title=Fortunes of Africa: A 5,000 Year History of Wealth, Greed and Endeavour|editor=Simon and Schuster|date=2014}}</ref>
:--[[User:TU-nor|T*U]] ([[User talk:TU-nor|talk]]) 09:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
*'''Include''' per the above <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 03:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
*'''Include''' per the given sources, which seem to demonstrate academic consensus. — [[User:Bilorv|Bilorv]] ('''[[User talk:Bilorv|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]]''') 22:58, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
*'''Include''' per the above [[User:Babakathy|Babakathy]] ([[User talk:Babakathy|talk]]) 14:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
*'''Weak Oppose''' ... I'm not going to be up-in-arms if this is added to the infobox since it's probably close enough, however, while many sources seem to indicate individual members espoused WS ideas, that it attracted WS members, etc., fewer sources indicate it was in fact white supremacist in its manifesto and platform. I would prefer "[[Racialist]]" be added as an ideology, instead, as there seems to be less disagreement on that term among sources. <ref>https://books.google.com/books?id=xpG90n8YLOwC&pg=PA454&lpg=PA454&dq=%22racialism%22+%22Rhodesian+front%22&source=bl&ots=33_-Z_cbsC&sig=ACfU3U1LyjlORht2IkXinKalovZqDzP0OQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFvY_F9vzoAhVqgXIEHe_fDgYQ6AEwBHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22racialism%22%20%22Rhodesian%20front%22&f=false</ref><ref>https://books.google.com/books?id=FFtEAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA7-PA75&lpg=RA7-PA75&dq=%22racialism%22+%22Rhodesian+front%22&source=bl&ots=j5srwtRf8V&sig=ACfU3U3JIGfnvRiostWBlB-zQwvN-UhQvQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFvY_F9vzoAhVqgXIEHe_fDgYQ6AEwBnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22racialism%22%20%22Rhodesian%20front%22&f=false</ref><ref>https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/zimbabwe/1966-04-01/rhodesia-context-southern-africa</ref> Again, however, I'm splitting hairs on this point and I if my opinion is the only thing preventing a close then I ask the closer to reconsider my opinion as an "Include." [[User:DocumentError| DocumentError]] ([[User talk:DocumentError|talk]]) 21:03, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - They aren't really white supremacists. They rather simply opposed [[racial integration]], therefore I oppose. [[User:Koridas|<span style="color: green">🌺Kori🌺</span>]] - ([[User talk:Koridas|<span style="color: blue">@</span>]]) 19:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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*'''Include''' per sources of TU-nor. [[User:Behindthekeys|Behindthekeys]] ([[User talk:Behindthekeys|talk]]) 18:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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== White supremacism ==
The RfC above was closed with a clear consensus: {{tq|The consensus is that "White supremacy" should be included in the "Ideology" list of the infobox based on how reliable sources have described the political party.}} This was implemented 16 May. One month later, two editors again edit to remove it, using edit summaries like {{tq|the Rhodesian Front is not a white supremacist party}}. In a last version, they accept including "White interests", which hardly can be described as an ideology.
The outcome of the RfC was clear. I have explained [[WP:RS]] and [[WP:CONSENSUS]] to {{u|Neddyfram}} in their talk page and given them the chance to self revert, but they have not been active for more than a week after their last revert. Now it is time to implement the consensus again. --[[User:TU-nor|T*U]] ([[User talk:TU-nor|talk]]) 07:04, 6 July 2020 (UTC)\
There obviously is no consensus above, per the Weak Oppose and Oppose sections. I propose we replace "White Supremacy" with "White Interests" [[Special:Contributions/2001:56A:FA44:C100:B4A7:9202:3268:8A89|2001:56A:FA44:C100:B4A7:9202:3268:8A89]] ([[User talk:2001:56A:FA44:C100:B4A7:9202:3268:8A89|talk]]) 23:06, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
The Rhodesian Front was a self proclaimed white supremacist organisation, this view was unambiguously espoused within rank and file of the party and existed in the Rhodesian Front's own Principles and Policies (1962) manifesto. Why is this being contested? [[User:MTM-2k|MTM-2k]] ([[User talk:MTM-2k|talk]]) 22:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|MTM-2k}} Why then it had a lot of Black members? --[[Special:Contributions/95.24.66.180|95.24.66.180]] ([[User talk:95.24.66.180|talk]]) 02:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
::hi. Do you have a source where we can read that? [[User:Babakathy|Babakathy]] ([[User talk:Babakathy|talk]]) 05:14, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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