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== Requested move ==
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*'''Support'''. [[User:Zarbat|Zarbat]] 10:55, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. While the name may be more inclusive, it is '''''not''''' used within Australia, instead the government prefers to make use of the longer "Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander" label for both these (culturally separate) groups. Australian Aboriginal is the only common term for the native inhabitants ever used in Australia, and I've never heard/seen the phrase "Indigenous Australians" being commonly used for the aboriginals in my life. +[[User:Hexagon1|Hexagon1]] <sup>([[User talk:Hexagon1|t]])</sup> 12:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' This has been agonised over before. It was accepted as the most acceptable and least patronising title. Its not perfect-but otherwise wikipedia will be schizophrenic.[[User:Lentisco|Lentisco]] 03:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Support''' [[User:Orderinchaos78|Orderinchaos78]] <sup>([[User_talk:Orderinchaos78|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/Orderinchaos78|c]])</sup> 22:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. The existing title is strongly preferred by the people whose cultures we are discussing here. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 19:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. The current title works better, and there are enough redirects. [[User:ANNAfoxlover|<span style="background:lightblue"><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="color:black">A•N•N•A</font></font></span>foxlov]][[User:ANNAfoxlover/MSE|'''e''']][[User talk:ANNAfoxlover|<big>r</big>]] [[User:ANNAfoxlover/Autographs|<small><font color="color:chartreuse">'''''hello!'''''</font></small>]] 16:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
===Discussion===
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* please have a look at Zarbat's [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=100&target=Zarbat] before engaging in this. possible single issue trouble-maker?
* also hexagon's I've never heard/seen the phrase "Indigenous Australians" being commonly used for the aboriginals in my life" would seem to indicate a complete lack of knowledge of this issue. this is not an exageration. the "only common term claim" is simply false. anyone unfamiliar with subject, please proceed w/ caution '''→''' [[User:Bsnowball|bsnowball]] 09:00, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
* It's said above in the survey that ''this has been agonised over before'' which I'd expect, it's been a hot topic in Australia for several decades. But where exactly is the previous discussion in Wikipedia? [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 19:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
=== Conclusion ===
No consensus for move. I suggest that Zarbat gets more people supporting him, maybe he can solicit the [[Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board]]. / [[User:Fred Chess|Fred]]-[[User_talk:Fred Chess|Chess]] 08:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
==ABS definition of Indigenous (and it is capitalised)==
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:In Australia the term Indigenous is used to refer to both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. Therefore, officially Australia has two groups of Indigenous people...
[[User:Paul foord|Paul foord]] 13:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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== removed weasel words ==
", and it is claimed to be the world's oldest wind instrument" contains a canonical example of Wikipedia weasel words: "is claimed to be". Claimed by who? In addition, the [[Didgeridoo]] page says the earliest evidence for a didgeridoo is 1,500 years ago, while the [[Flute]] page says the earliest extant flute is, at least, 38,000 years old, more than 25 times older. So I removed the quoted phrase from the article. [[User:Nwbeeson|Nick Beeson]] ([[User talk:Nwbeeson|talk]]) 18:28, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
==Cultural question==
On a photograph in a museum exhibition about Aboriginal art 'X is in this picture'; at the entrance to another such exhibition a text informing people of Aboriginal culture/inheritance that there are images of persons of that grouping since deceased. What is the belief system behind this? [[Special:Contributions/86.153.166.25|86.153.166.25]] ([[User talk:86.153.166.25|talk]]) 21:51, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:[[Australian Aboriginal avoidance practices#Avoidance of naming the dead]]. [[User:Mitch Ames|Mitch Ames]] ([[User talk:Mitch Ames|talk]]) 11:39, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
::So 'a significantly old film' would not be considered an issue on this ground (but might raise issues of being culturally patronising)?
Most people would wish to avoid causing accidental offence'/be generally courteous and cooperative. [[Special:Contributions/193.132.104.10|193.132.104.10]] ([[User talk:193.132.104.10|talk]]) 14:35, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
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==Missing Elements==
I have posted this comment on several pages which describe Aboriginal culture, because my comment is relevant to each of these pages: As a hobby I read extensively on Indigenous cultures around the world - a fascinating subject. I have a large library as a result. This article has huge amounts missing in terms of description of Aboriginal life pre-colonisation, a subject which is of great interest to many people. Books on this from the 1800s to 1900s are abundant and easy to access (Tom Petrie, William Buckley, Douglas Lockwood etc.), and some tribes in Australia still practice culture (Martu people of WA, Yolngu of NT etc.). PDFs of Yolngu law as it has been practiced for 1000s of years has been written down by the elders for the broader public to understand, and is easy to access with a google search. Is there any particular reason for for leaving out large amounts of easy to find facts and information on this subject?[[User:Alabama81bornandbred|Alabama81bornandbred]] ([[User talk:Alabama81bornandbred|talk]]) 10:16, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
:I fear I have found this comment some 5+ years too late for you to see a response, but I think you or anyone else who has an extensive database on a topic would be doing a great service to people who are not as informed as you by adding information, yourself. It may be daunting at first, but you or anyone reading this comment who does not have the history of wikipedia-editing should read about how to (and generally what info to add), and add what you see fit. It can be fun and rewarding, and you can know that you are helping others find information. [[User:La rodman|La rodman]] ([[User talk:La rodman|talk]]) 02:40, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
I agree there are many aspects of aboriginal culture, pseudo religious practices that can be documented. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/104.238.51.89|104.238.51.89]] ([[User talk:104.238.51.89#top|talk]]) 10:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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