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[[Crème brûlée]] and [[crema catalana]] are essentially the same dish, and indeed there are claims (both ways) that one was the origin of the other. [[Wikipedia:Content forking|Wikipedia policy]] says that we organize articles by substantive topic, not by name, national associations, or point of view, so I see no reason for two articles here. [[Topic_creation#Use_the_most_easily_recognized_name|Wikipedia policy further clarifies]] that we should ''prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize'', which is quite clearly ''crème brûlée'' and not ''crema catalana'', ''burnt cream'', or ''Trinity cream''. --[[User:Macrakis|macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 14:53, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
*'''Strong agree''' [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 00:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 
As a catalan who live near french I know well how is a creme brulee and crema catalana. Is well known the main ingredients are the same but the texture and the cook style is completly diferent, crema catala has a texture as custard but creme brulee is more like pie. Furthermore the flavour of the crema catalana is potenciated by cinamon unlike creme brulee which is powered by vainilla. [[User:RhinoFullmetal|RhinoFullmetal]] ([[User talk:RhinoFullmetal|talk]]) 20:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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*'''Oppose''' - what's changed since this was last discussed above? [[User:Knepflerle|Knepflerle]] ([[User talk:Knepflerle|talk]]) 04:13, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
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:::At the same time, there are many things we can do to improve the coverage of the Catalan version in this article. For example, the article says that crema catalana is documented in the 14th-century ''Llibre de Sent Soví'', but without a precise page reference which would let us [[WP:V|verify]] it. It would surely be worthwhile to have a blockquote or feature box with the full 14th-century recipe. --[[User:Macrakis|Macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 15:44, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
:::: [[Café au lait]], [[Café con leche]], Caffè [[latte]], [[Wiener Melange]], [[Cappuccino]], [[Galão]], [[Caffè macchiato]], [[Cortado]], [[Latte macchiato]]... [[User:Barefoot through the chollas|Barefoot through the chollas]] ([[User talk:Barefoot through the chollas|talk]]) 17:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
:::::Excellent example of a set of articles that should be merged! [[WP:OTHER|Two wrongs don't make a right]]. --[[User:Macrakis|Macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 18:34, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
::::::I undid the merge which was done without achieving a consensus. The merge should not be done while the discussion is open. [[User:Spudlace|Spudlace]] ([[User talk:Spudlace|talk]]) 20:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::::Huh? The stable version is actually the merged version. It was split ''with zero discussion'' in 2019 after almost 10 years in that form. I put a merge notice up in February to restore that version and it remained up until June, when I restored the stable version. Now, suddenly, two months after that, it is apparently so urgent to split the article that you've cut off discussion and restored the undiscussed split version after just one day's discussion? --[[User:Macrakis|Macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 20:47, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
::::::Spudlace, thanks for straightening this out. Text in both can now be cleaned up a bit. [[User:Barefoot through the chollas|Barefoot through the chollas]] ([[User talk:Barefoot through the chollas|talk]]) 21:31, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose''' Living myself in [[Northern Catalonia]] (in France), all restaurants here mostly have Crema catalana. Those that do more traditional French cooking do Crême brûlée. The difference between the two is an evidence for all customers and no one would call Crême brûlée Crema catalana or the opposite. [[User:Culex|Culex]] ([[User talk:Culex|talk]]) 23:22, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
== "Creme broolay" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect [[:Creme broolay]]. The discussion will occur at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 3#Creme broolay]] until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Un assiolo|Un assiolo]] ([[User talk:Un assiolo|talk]]) 19:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I am late to the party but I personally would support it: it fits the "regular" 26 letters of English alphabet. [[User:OkiPrinterUser|OkiPrinterUser]] ([[User talk:OkiPrinterUser|talk]]) 15:06, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 
== No Creme Brulee in French cookbooks until the 1980s (?) ==
 
Is there really no creme brulee in the basic works of, say, Raymond Oliver (since ca. 1958), Bocuse or Lenotre? - I haven't got those anymore, so can't look myself.--[[User:Ralfdetlef|Ralfdetlef]] ([[User talk:Ralfdetlef|talk]]) 06:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 
:Absence of proof is not a proof of absence. Please try the correct French spelling. [[User:OkiPrinterUser|OkiPrinterUser]] ([[User talk:OkiPrinterUser|talk]]) 15:09, 5 June 2023 (UTC)