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some WP projects are indeed relevent. may be you haven't read the whole article properly. Anyway I have cut it. And added only relevent ones.
 
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== Original call for change of name ==
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*''Dalits were banned from buying grocery items in their villages by non-Dalits and Upper caste Hindus''
*''Shiv Sena, the Hindutva political party, initially declared itself opposed to the Namantar.''
In this backdrop, no one but a POV editor can remove this category. Eye-washing logics like ''Hindus persecuting hindus?'' and ''The article is not saying that is the purpose of the category'' are not expected from experienced editor like Sitush. Such logics absolutely have no meaning. Please be bold to express the truth because, after all, you can’t hide it. Edit-war can't remove a truth because there are other means to seek remedy.--[[User:AsceticRose|<fontspan colorstyle="color:dimgray;"><b>Ascetic</b></fontspan>]][[User talk: AsceticRose|<fontspan colorstyle="color:orangered;"><b>Rosé</b></fontspan>]] 16:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 
:The only reason you can draw that conclusion is because Bhooshannpy has succeeded in producing a very biased article. If you read even the sources that are cited, rather than the many alternates, you will realise that this was a social persecution rather than a religious one. For example, yes, Buddhists were targeted in some areas but they were targeted not for being Buddhist but for being dalit upstarts, challenging their traditional place in society. It was '''not''' a religious movement. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 11:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
::Your answer is fundamentally flawed, and funny as well. Yes, it is a social persecution. So what? Are social persecutions not ''persecutions''? What a funny logic! Yes, they are persecuted for being ''Dalit'', and the article is also saying so. So, where is the contradiction? The article mentions ''Dalit'' approximately 83 times while it mentions ''Buddhist'' for 8 times.
::As you yourself admit it is a persecution by Hindus, the category is further justified, and you can't remove it.--[[User:AsceticRose|<fontspan colorstyle="color:dimgray;"><b>Ascetic</b></fontspan>]][[User talk: AsceticRose|<fontspan colorstyle="color:orangered;"><b>Rosé</b></fontspan>]] 15:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:::It mentions things as it does precisely because one particular contributor is pushing a certain point of view. For example, Omvedt is selectively used but she is consistent in arguing that the issue is one of class, not religion. Don't believe what you read in this article because it is in large part not a true reflection of the sources. We have a major issue with ownership and pov pushing here. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 00:41, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
::::I have already proved the category with accurate citations. I advise other editor to refer one more citation: Murugkar, Lata (1991) Dalit Panther Movement in Maharashtra. A Sociological Appraisal. Bombay: Popular Prakashan.Pgae 171