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In Wikipedia, it didn’t mention Netherlands is the first country in the world formally to legalise euthanasia. I think it should be added since there is a sentence in Wikipedia that voluntary euthanasia was legalized in Colombia (in 1997), the Netherlansa (in 2002). It’s not correct. Colombia is not the first country to legalize the euthanasia. It will mislead reader.
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:This has since been added to the article. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 02:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
== Colombia doesn't make sense ==
 
== Also known as killing==
"In May 1997 the Colombian Constitutional Court allowed for the voluntary euthanasia of sick patients who requested to end their lives, by passing Article 326 of the 1980 Penal Code.[78] This ruling owes its success to the efforts of a group that strongly opposed voluntary euthanasia. "
 
"If a person is unable to provide consent it is referred to as non-voluntary euthanasia. Killing a person who does not want to die, or who is capable of giving consent and whose consent has not been solicited, is the crime of involuntary euthanasia, and is regarded as murder."
The court allowed for euthanasia, thanks to a group that opposes euthanasia!?
 
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:[[Special:Contributions/84.70.145.70|84.70.145.70]] ([[User talk:84.70.145.70|talk]]) 04:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 
:Yes, that's what the article says and the article does aim to be neutral. The intent of your comment is somewhat unclear; is there a specific change to that wording you would like to propose? -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 02:06, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
== Palliative medicine articles ==
::While it is less one correction that is required to be made in the interests of balance, does not the general tone of the article need to be changed? [[Special:Contributions/91.110.75.1|91.110.75.1]] ([[User talk:91.110.75.1|talk]]) 08:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 
:::What specific passages do you find contribute to an unbalanced tone? -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 18:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Please be aware when citing articles from palliative medicine that they are mostly opposed to changes in the law in respect to assisted suicide and cannot therefore be considered neutral. For instance they will commonly conflate euthanasia and voluntary euthanasia where there is a very important distinction. [[User:Jdee4|Jdee4]] ([[User talk:Jdee4|talk]]) 15:02, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 
== Euthanasis: saying it as it is ==
 
"If a person is unable to provide consent it is referred to as non-voluntary euthanasia. Killing a person who does not want to die, or who is capable of giving consent and whose consent has not been solicited, is the crime of involuntary euthanasia, and is regarded as murder."
 
==Decent End of Life Care==
While it now seems a little out-of-fashion to debate/present a case in a clear fashion, this statement is very much to the point. Given this, is there not somehow it could be highlighted, given greater stress or used as a quote/within the article? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.151.2.22|95.151.2.22]] ([[User talk:95.151.2.22#top|talk]]) 07:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
Could this article highlight that the debate on 'Assisted Suicide' did not just appear from nowhere, but is part of long-running campaign? Then again, if the peoplearticle areis reallyto concernedfully report concerns about quality of life and death, then shouldmight theyit not pushhighlight forcalls farfor better funding of first-rate Endend of Lifelife care? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.149.166.137|95.149.166.137]] ([[User talk:95.149.166.137#top|talk]]) 09:14, 21 July 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Could this article highlight the point that the debate on assisted killing (murder in legal terms) did not just appear from just anywhere, but is part of a well-funded and long-running campaign?
 
:Various advocacy organizations and dates of various advocacy documents are already mentioned in the article. It's unclear what you mean by "long-running"; do you have specific facts you want to see included or reliable sources that could be cited? -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 02:04, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Then again, if the people are really concerned about quality of life and death, then should they not push for far better funding of first-rate End of Life care? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.149.166.137|95.149.166.137]] ([[User talk:95.149.166.137#top|talk]]) 09:14, 21 July 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->