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==Amurru & The Amorites==
Were these people Semites or Hamites?
 
Genesis chapter 10 gives the lineage of Ham, father of Cush, father of Nimrod. Gen.10: 8-12 talks about Nimrod and his descendants. Nimrod established Babylon and Akkad (Accad).
 
Nimrod was called a "mighty hunter". This supports the theory that they were not peaceful pastoralists.
 
To call them "Semitic speaking" is nothing but anti-black bias. They were Hamitic people, this should be noted, and changed to they were "Hamitic speaking". The Akkadians, because they were merchants, invented a system of writing to help record business transactions. So these Cushite, Hamitic people were instrumental in developing the alphabet and written words.[[User:Kzlion|Kzlion]] ([[User talk:Kzlion|talk]]) 16:18, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 
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== Merger proposal with [[Amurru kingdom]] ==
 
The content of the article [[Amurru kingdom]] is fully covered in this article, and in much better detail.
 
Crucially, the primary sources for both the "kingdom" and the "people" are very few and are exactly the same. No secondary sources I am aware of split the people from the kingdom, because there is no information to provide separately without duplicating.
 
[[User:Oncenawhile|Oncenawhile]] ([[User talk:Oncenawhile|talk]]) 19:55, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' We have many kingdoms about whom we know nothing, yet they have Stub articles. Amurru was a small kingdom in Lebanon and didn't represent the whole Amorites from Babylon to Damascus. Amurru and Amotites are not the same and it deserve a Stub as its kings never ruled over the whole Amorites nor was this kingdom the ancestral or first land of those people
 
:Plus, this article doesnt talk a lot about the kingdom or [[Abdi-Ashirta]]. it seems like this article focus just on Mesopotamia and aside from the very similar names, Amorites are a people attested from c 2500 to 1200 BC, while Amurru is just a petty kingdom that lasted less than 200 years in a very restricted area.--[[User:Attar-Aram syria|Attar-Aram syria]] ([[User talk:Attar-Aram syria|talk]]) 04:56, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 
*'''Oppose''' there difference between amorite people that talk about ethinicity and Amurru kingdom that talk about country --[[User:FPP|FPP]] ([[User talk:FPP|talk]]) 20:21, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 
== Simply the predecessors of the Canaanites? ==
 
[http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1525/aa.1965.67.4.02a00430/asset/aa.1965.67.4.02a00430.pdf;jsessionid=0A1607B90ECDE6891DDBC9CD5F73B11F.f01t02?v=1&t=i4bvc9x1&s=866dc34cb9f4a69c74e7382a4150269f95ac0e88 This article] suggests that Amorites were simply the predecessors of the Canaanites. I have seen this written in other places as well. Would anyone object to clarifying this in the lead? [[User:Oncenawhile|Oncenawhile]] ([[User talk:Oncenawhile|talk]]) 23:13, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 
== Needs a map ==
 
This article needs a map with labeled points and areas for clarity.
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== kurds? ==
 
As far as I assume kurdish nationalists claim amorites to be kurdish because they had a state called kurda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kurda
 
The Amorites are the origin of the Semitic peoples, and they are the ancestors of the Arabs. [[User:Joushal|Joushal]] ([[User talk:Joushal|talk]]) 00:29, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 
:The term "Semitic peoples" describes those who's descended from Shem. So how can the Amorites be the origin of the Semitic peoples? [[Special:Contributions/177.50.60.69|177.50.60.69]] ([[User talk:177.50.60.69|talk]]) 21:24, 19 November 2023 (UTC)