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== Untitled ==
 
"As one chronicler has noted, the TV station concept gave the show the ability to parody virtually any TV genre, as well as advertising."
 
Is this worth noting? I wouldn't say this "ability to parody any TV genre" sets it apart in any way. SNL has the exact same ability.
:Yes, but in a qualitatively different way. SNL is a "loose premise." They throw out sketches of any type and on any subject. SCTV is a tight premise -- they _are_ a TV show, and as a result, their TV and genre parodies fit into a broader framework. It's the difference between parodying a television show, and parodying a television _station,_ which then leads to parodying all of television. [[User:Eric Burns|Eric Burns]]
 
Did NBC ever give thought to replacing Saturday Night Live with SCTV...? In c. 1983, at the height of SCTV's popularity, I remember SCTV appearing on NBC late night, but whether it was Friday or a Saturday replacement for SNL I'm not sure. However, I seem to recall NBC occasionally broadcasting SCTV on Saturday Night instead of SNL reruns. ... In any event, the 1982 - 1983 TV season not only witnessed the height of SCTV, or nearly so, but also a lull or low point for Saturday Night Live, prior to the star appearance of Eddie Murphy and the rejuvenation of SNL in the mid-1980s. ([[User:John G. Lewis|John G. Lewis]] ([[User talk:John G. Lewis|talk]]) 18:19, 21 July 2018 (UTC))
 
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== Bob & Doug ==
No mention of the animated series?!?!?!?
[[Special:Contributions/68.167.161.182|68.167.161.182]] ([[User talk:68.167.161.182|talk]]) 00:15, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 
== online revival ==
 
Current Second City performers have a series of videos on the IMDb and YouTube collectively labeled as "SCTV." Although there doesn't seem to be any relation at all to any of the characters or performers of the original SCTV, I suppose that there is some legitimacy to use of the title, due to its direct relation to Second City. Shouldn't all of this at least be mentioned in the article? I understand that IMDb and YouTube are not considered reliable sources, so I don't know how to go about mentioning this in the article in keeping with Wikipedia guidelines -- but the content ''is'' inarguably out there, for anyone who wants to take a look. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.47.103.16|24.47.103.16]] ([[User talk:24.47.103.16|talk]]) 11:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
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== Second City Television : ''The New Yorker'' and ''Vanity Fair'' ==
 
 
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/11/17/prodigal-3|title=Prodigal|first=Michael|last=Schulman|date=10 November 2014|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1994/03/21/the-joel-silver-show|title=THE JOEL SILVER SHOW|first=Mark|last=Singer|date=14 March 1994|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/culture/sarah-larson/judd-apatows-guidebook-for-comedy-geeks|title=Judd Apatow’s Guidebook for Comedy Geeks|first=Sarah|last=Larson|date=25 June 2015|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/01/04/farceur|title=Andrea Martin, from Trapeze to Sardines|first=Michael|last=Schulman|date=25 December 2015|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/12/18/character-actor|title=Character Actor|first=Nick|last=Paumgarten|date=11 December 2006|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/04/11/schitts-creek-takes-new-york|title=“Schitt’s Creek” Takes New York|first=Sarah|last=Larson|date=4 April 2016|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/09/23/good-time-girls|title=Good-Time Girls|first=David|last=Denby|date=16 September 2002|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/bustin-made-us-feel-good-the-joyful-comedy-of-harold-ramis|title=Bustin’ Made Us Feel Good: The Joyful Comedy of Harold Ramis|first=Sarah|last=Larson|date=25 February 2014|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/04/17/wanting-more-from-stephen-colberts-late-show|title=Wanting More from Stephen Colbert’s “Late Show”|first=Emily|last=Nussbaum|date=10 April 2017|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/23/last-girl-larchmont|title=How Joan Rivers Got That Way|first=Emily|last=Nussbaum|date=16 February 2015|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/01/24/the-contender-4|title=The Contender|first=David|last=Denby|date=17 January 2005|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/news/hendrik-hertzberg/billy-oscar-meets-mitt-nascar|title=Billy Oscar Meets Mitt NASCAR|first=Hendrik|last=Hertzberg|date=27 February 2012|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=http://archives.newyorker.com/?iid=15960&startpage=page0000121|title=The New Yorker Digital Edition : Apr 18, 1988|website=archives.newyorker.com}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/to-wish-upon-ishtar|title=To Wish Upon Ishtar|date=9 August 2010|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=http://archives.newyorker.com/?iid=139740&startpage=page0000026|title=The New Yorker Digital Edition : Apr 11, 2016|website=archives.newyorker.com}}
* {{cite web|url=http://archives.newyorker.com/?iid=15831&startpage=page0000024|title=The New Yorker Digital Edition : Oct 21, 1991|website=archives.newyorker.com}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/04/19/comedy-first|title=Comedy First|first=Tad|last=Friend|date=12 April 2004|publisher=The New Yorker}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2006/08/james-wolcott-martin-short|title=Marty with an M|first=James|last=Wolcott|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2012/12/martin-short-characters-separated-at-birth|title=Separated at Birth: The Martin Short–Character Deluxe Edition|first=David|last=Kamp|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/12/eugene-levy-on-schitts-creek|title=Eugene Levy on Schitt’s Creek: It’s “The Straightest Thing I’ve Ever Done in My Career”|first=David|last=Kamp|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2013/01/martin-short-hollywoods-most-beloved|title=Martin Short Is Hollywood’s Most Beloved Comedian—Here’s Why|first=David|last=Kamp|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/1999/09/proust-questionnaire-martin-short|title=The Proust Questionnaire: Martin Short|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2007/11/frankenstein200711|title=A Monster Classic|first=Susan|last=Kittenplan|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2010/10/jackass-slide-show-201010|title=The 3-D Stooges|first=Jim|last=Windolf|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/04/funny_sedaris200804|title=Amy Sedaris|first=Jim|last=Windolf|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/04/pip-pop-pow|title=Pippin' Hot|first=James|last=Wolcott|website=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/1997/09/wolcott-199709|title=Maher’s Attacks|first=James|last=Wolcott|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/04/funnygirls200804|title=Who Says Women Aren't Funny?|first=Alessandra|last=Stanley|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2014/06/ghostbusters-making-of|title=Surviving "The Murricane" and a Marshmallow Man On Fire: The Making of Ghostbusters|first=Lesley M. M.|last=Blume|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2012/05/tv-snob-dictionary-humor|title=Humor: A TV Snob’s Dictionary|first=David|last=Kamp|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/01/history-canadian-humor|title=Of Moose and Men: Analyzing Canadian Humor|first=Bruce|last=McCall|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/03/wolcott-201103|title=Comedy's Heavy Hitters|first=James|last=Wolcott|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/twitter-feeds-for-keeping-up-with-trump-and-russia|title=5 Essential Twitter Feeds for Keeping Up with Trump and Russia|first=James|last=Wolcott|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2000/01/archive1301|title=January 2013 Archives|first=|last=|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/09/jerry-lewis-201109|title=Last Tuxedo Standing|first=James|last=Wolcott|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2010/03/john-hughes-201003|title=David Kamp on John Hughes|first=David|last=Kamp|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/1997/05/rat-pack-vegas|title=The reign of Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Jr.’s Rat Pack|first=James|last=Wolcott|website=The Hive}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2014/09/adam-driver-hungry-hearts|title=Adam Driver Proves He Can Do Anything in Hungry Hearts|first=Jordan|last=Hoffman|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2009/09/before-we-kick-off-the|title=Last Night on Mad Men: The Naked and the Dread|first=James|last=Wolcott|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/08/david-cross-bob-odenkirk-netflix-comedy|title=Mr. Show Rides Again: Bob Odenkirk and David Cross Re-unite for New Netflix Sketch Series|first=George|last=Gurley|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/04/great-news-30-rock-tina-fey-robert-carlock-tracey-wigfield|title=Why Great News Could Fill the 30 Rock–Shaped Hole in Your Heart|first=Joel|last=Keller|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2013/01/freaks-and-geeks-oral-history|title=The Oral History of Freaks and Geeks|first=Robert|last=Lloyd|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
* {{cite web|url=https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2010/09/she-died-as-she-lived--surrounded|title=She Died With Her Wig On: Mad Men, Season 4, Episode 9|first=James|last=Wolcott|publisher=Vanity Fair}}
[[Special:Contributions/64.175.41.40|64.175.41.40]] ([[User talk:64.175.41.40|talk]]) 05:42, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 
== interview ==
* http://asitecalledfred.com/2013/06/29/rick-moranis-ken-plume-interview/
* http://asitecalledfred.com/2013/06/29/dave-thomas-ken-plume-interview/
[[Special:Contributions/64.175.41.40|64.175.41.40]] ([[User talk:64.175.41.40|talk]]) 06:42, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 
==CCCP1==
Also a possible allusion to [[C-3PO]] of Star Wars? [[User:AMCKen|AMCKen]] ([[User talk:AMCKen|talk]]) 20:24, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 
== Gerry Todd Show ==
 
Stated "Supers - they're coming everywhere." He was also a fan of logos. Sometimes comedy is way ahead of electronics and CNN. [[User:ItsACityOfApes|ItsACityOfApes]] ([[User talk:ItsACityOfApes|talk]]) 19:27, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 
== SCTV News and The 5 Neat Guys ==
 
It has long been duly noted that Eugene Levy patterned his characterization of SCTV News co-anchor Earl Camembert upon Buffalo news anchor Irv Weinstein. But I notice there was nothing about whom Joe Flaherty modeled Floyd Robertson on. Given that he grew up in Pittsburgh, I've often wondered whether that city's veteran anchor, Bill Burns, was one of those on whom his characterization of Robertson was based.
 
As to the 5 Neat Guys, I wondered if they were drawing more from The Four Lads - who were Canadian, after all - plus the numbers they did being a parody of the kind of inane (and often borderline scandalous) novelties Mitch Miller foisted on the artists who recorded for Columbia Records when he was their A&R head ("Hickey on My Shoulder" and "Who Made the Egg Salad Sandwiches" sound like takeoffs on stuff like Guy Mitchell's 1952 "Feet Up (Pat Him on the Po-Po)," Doris Day's "A Guy Is a Guy," Jimmy Boyd's 1953 "(I've Got Those 'Wake Up, Seven-Thirty - Wash Your Ears, They're Dirty - Eat Your Eggs And Oatmeal - Rush To School') Blues" - and taking Ray Charles' seminal "I Got a Woman" from 1954 and having Jo Stafford record it as "I Got a Sweetie"). [[User:Wbwn|Wbwn]] ([[User talk:Wbwn|talk]]) 12:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)