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:They should have checked. If they were not aware, they are now. But I don't see why I shouldn't have some fun while pointing out any logical inconsistency (nb serious understatement!) in the positions taken by those with whom I am in disagreement. I'm already blocked so what's the worst that can happen? An extended block because I made an admin look foolish? Unlikely but blocks no longer worry me. Meanwhile, my attitude to other editors coming in is entirely dictated by their attitude to me: if they treat me as a valued contributor who makes good contributions, then that's the role I'll play. [[User:Fys|Fys]]. “[[User:Fys|Ta]] [[Special:Contributions/Fys|fys]] [[User talk:Fys|aym]]”. 17:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
:: It's completely irrelevant. I reviewed the edit history of the other accounts and left a warning, but that does not change in any important respect the two facts at issue here which are that Fys engaged in edit-warring instead of discussion, behaviour which has got him into trouble numerous times before; and the fact that removal of poorly-sourced critical material from a biography is perfectly legitimate and certainly not ''simple vandalism''.
:: For future reference, Fys, "''Foo'' is vandalising" "No, that's a content dispute" "''Foo is vandalising I tell you!" etc. is bloody unconstructive, and telling us that we are supposed to know about the past history is pathetic. The vandalism noticeboard is, as it plainly states, a place for requesting quick action in unambiguous cases; if it's ambiguous it does not belong there (as you should know, having been an admin) and at the very least of there is a backstory you ought to make some reference to it up front, if not the first time you repoirt then the second. You have been rude, arrogant, snide, patronising, obnoxious, uncooperative and in every possible way unconstructive - and above all ''stupid''. What the fuck is the point of baiting people when you're trying to get help? Having attracted two admins along, you could have avoided trouble, certainly avoided a block, and maybe even enlisted help, ''trivially easily'' with even a modicum of politeness, but you chose instead to resort to precisely the behaviour which has failed every previous time you've tried it, and got you sanctioned and desysopped into the bargain. Brilliant! Could you not spot the weakness in your master plan?
:: Your insistence that people treat you as a ''valued contributor'' demonstrates extreme hubris. Your value as a contributor is adequately summed up in the ArbCom ruling, which says that your value is not so great that you can continue to edit an article if you disrupt it by edit-warring, something you seem inclined to do. ''Valued'' contributors tend not to do that, do they? Honestly, if you, a person sanctioned by ArbCom for tendentious editing of political biographies, come along and ''demand'' that admins take your side in what is evidently a content dispute, against what appears to be removal of badly-sourced negative content in a [[WP:LIVING]] article, almost certainly by the article's subject, and without making any attempt whatsoever to be helpful, what ''precisely'' do you expect the result to be? You have behaved like a spoilt child, and not only ''should'' you know better, you ''do'' know better, because you've been sanctioned for it more than once. I recommend that you change your behaviour before you do it once too often. You are an idiot and a time-waster and [[Monty Python and the Holy Grail|I fart in your general direction]].
:: This was a public service announcement brought to you by the [[WP:SPADE|gardening department]]. Oh, and I've unblocked you on the gournds that you have undertaken not to repeat the edit-warring, which would have worked in the first place. Do feel free to try a little ''politessee'' before the haranguing next time this happens, as I'm confident it will. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 18:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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