Talk:Azov Brigade: Difference between revisions

::::Agree. If someone is willing to put in the time assembling citations, at least two on each side and preferably three, we could include mention of their frequent characterization as "heroes of Ukraine". Our friend who inserted that is on to something in that the characterization of them as heroes is indeed "a thing", ie., a notable phenomena. So his desire to note that in the encyclopedic is in now way frivolous. But you are correct that it is not a universal viewpoint and needs more than one citation due to its' controversial nature. [[User:Wikidgood|Wikidgood]] ([[User talk:Wikidgood|talk]]) 22:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

:Friend, it is not OK to call them "Nazis" without a more nuanced NPOV balance and thanks to one of our editors, after a flurry of complaints by myself and several others, a "disputed" tag was placed upon the controversial designation. Which, for the moment, satisfies my impulse to throw a shoe at the computer screen. However, to insert a not-very-NPOV characterization of "heroic" is, according to your explanation, "Two Wrongs Make A Right". This edit should not really even require a talk page section! I appreciate your appreciation of the heroism - which may exist simultaneously with despicable neo-Nazi views [or not]. But come on, you know that this is not the way to fix the problem of the unduly perjorative, biased and propagandistic painting them with a broad brush as nothing but "neoNazi". Perhaps you are somewhat tongue in cheek with your edit? Does not bother me but there are others who won't be so amused. I suggest you turn your attention to the bottom of the article where "NEONAZISM" is placed at the top of the stack of outside links. That seems unduly perjorative and misplaces emphasis. Perhaps you can support placing that to the bottom of the stack? That would satisfy your eagerness to show some respect for their current plight, and heroism, while remaining withing the customs and conventions of Wikipedia. [[User:Wikidgood|Wikidgood]] ([[User talk:Wikidgood|talk]]) 22:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)