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Those socialists who oppose any system of state control whatsoever believe in a more decentralized approach which puts the means of production directly into the hands of the workers rather than indirectly through state bureaucracies<ref name="AFAQ H"/><ref name="AFAQ I"/><ref name="McKay 2008"/> which they claim represent a new [[elite]] or [[New class|class]].<ref>{{cite book|first=Milovan|last=Đilas|author-link=Milovan Đilas|year=1983|orig-year=1957|title=The New Class: An Analysis of the Communist System|edition=paperback|publisher=Harcourt Brace Jovanovich|location=San Diego|isbn=0-15-665489-X}}</ref><ref>{{cite book|first=Milovan|last=Đilas|year=1969|title=The Unperfect Society: Beyond the New Class|translator-first=Dorian|translator-last=Cooke|publisher=Harcourt, Brace & World|location=New York City|isbn=0-15-693125-7|url=https://archive.org/details/unperfectsociety00djil}}</ref><ref>{{cite book|first=Milovan|last=Đilas|author-link=Milovan Đilas|year=1998|title=Fall of the New Class: A History of Communism's Self-Destruction|edition=hardcover|publisher=Alfred A. Knopf|isbn=0-679-43325-2|url=https://archive.org/details/fallofnewclasshi00djil}}</ref><ref>{{cite book|first=Leon|last=Trotsky|author-link=Leon Trotsky|year=1991|orig-year=1937|title=The Revolution Betrayed: What is the Soviet Union and Where is it Going?|edition=paperback|publisher=Labor Publications|location=Detroit|isbn=0-929087-48-8|url=http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1936-rev/index.htm}}</ref> This leads them to consider state socialism a form of state capitalism<ref>Bordiga, Amadeo (1952). [https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1952/stalin.htm "Dialogue With Stalin"]. Marxists Internet Archive. Retrieved 11 November 2019.</ref> (an economy based on centralized management, capital accumulation and wage labor, but with the state owning the means of production)<ref>{{cite book|chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/keywordsvocabula00willrich|chapter-url-access=registration|title=Keywords: A Vocabulary of Culture and Society|last=Williams|first=Raymond|publisher=Oxford University Press|isbn=9780195204698|edition=revised|series=Oxford paperbacks|location=New York|date=1985|page=[https://archive.org/details/keywordsvocabula00willrich/page/52 52]|chapter=Capitalism|quote=A new phrase, state-capitalism, has been widely used in mC20, with precedents from eC20, to describe forms of state ownership in which the original conditions of the definition – centralized ownership of the means of production, leading to a system of wage-labour – have not really changed.|author-link1=Raymond Williams|access-date=April 30, 2017|orig-year=1976}}</ref> which Engels stated would be the final form of capitalism rather than socialism.<ref>Engels, Friedrich (1880). ''[[Socialism: Utopian and Scientific]]''. [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/ch03.htm "III: Historical Materialism"]. Marxists Internet Archive. Retrieved 8 February 2020.</ref> Furthermore, nationalization and [[state ownership]] have nothing to do with socialism by itself, having been historically carried out for various different purposes under a wide variety of different political and economic systems.<ref>{{cite book|last1=Alistair|first1=Mason|last2=Pyper|first2=Hugh|editor-last=Hastings|editor-first=Adrian|title=The Oxford Companion to Christian Thought|url-access=registration|url=https://archive.org/details/oxfordcompaniont00hast/page/677|publisher=Oxford University Press|date=21 December 2000|page=[https://archive.org/details/oxfordcompaniont00hast/page/677 677]|isbn=978-0198600244|access-date=28 December 2019|quote=At the heart of its vision has been social or common ownership of the means of production. Common ownership and democratic control of these was far more central to the thought of the early socialists than state control or nationalization, which developed later. [...] Nationalization in itself has nothing particularly to do with socialism and has existed under non-socialist and anti-socialist regimes. Kautsky in 1891 pointed out that a 'co-operative commonwealth' could not be the result of the 'general nationalization of all industries' unless there was a change in 'the character of the state'}}.</ref>
 
State socialism is often referred to by right-wing detractors simply as ''socialism'', including [[Austrian School]] economists such as [[Friedrich Hayek]]<ref>Hayek, Friedrich (1944). ''[[The Road to Serfdom]]''. Routledge Press. {{ISBN|0-226-32061-8}}. {{oclc|30733740}}.</ref> and [[Ludwig von Mises]],<ref>Von Mises, Ludwig (1936) [1922]. ''[[Socialism (book)|Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis]]''. London: Jonathan Cape. {{oclc|72357479}}.</ref><ref>Von Mises, Ludwig; Raico, Ralph, trans.; Goddard, Arthur, ed. (1962) [1927]. ''[[Liberalism (book)|The Free and Prosperous Commonwealth: An Exposition of the Ideas of Classical Liberalism]]''. Princeton, D. Van Nostrand. {{ISBN|978-0442090579}}.</ref> who continually used the term ''socialism'' as a synonym for central planning and state socialism.<ref>Block, Walter (15 January 2013). "Was Milton Friedman A Socialist? Yes". ''MEST Journal''. '''1''' (1): 11–26. {{doi|10.12709/mest.01.01.01.02.pdf}}. "In section 2 of this paper we base our analysis on the assumption that socialism is defined in terms of governmental ownership of the means of production. [...] The most technical and perhaps the most accurate definition of this concept is, Government ownership of all of the means of production, e.g., capital goods." [...] Socialism may be broken down into its voluntary and coercive strands. In the former case, there are the nunnery, convent, kibbutz, commune, collective, syndicalist, cooperatives, monastery, abbey, priory, friary, religious community; in the latter, the economies of socialist countries such as Cuba, North Korea, the USSR, Nazi Germany, etc. We will use the word 'socialism' in the latter understanding throughout this paper. [...] The Nazi ''socialist'' government was not extreme in its explicit ownership of the means of production. But that version of socialism, that is, fascism, was earmarked by implicit state ownership, or control, of capital goods."</ref> This is notable in the United States, where ''socialism'' is a pejorative term to mean state socialism used by [[Conservatismmembers inof the United States|conservatives]] and [[LibertarianismRight-wing inpolitics|political the United States|libertariansright]] to stop the implementation of [[Modern liberalism in the United States|liberal]] and [[Progressivism in the United States|progressive]] policies, proposals and to criticize the public figures trying to implement them.<ref>{{cite news|url=https://www.economist.com/johnson/2012/01/06/the-failure-of-american-political-speech|title=The failure of American political speech|last=Jackson|first=Samuel|newspaper=The Economist|date=6 January 2012|access-date=15 June 2019|quote=Socialism is not "the government should provide healthcare" or "the rich should be taxed more" nor any of the other watery social-democratic positions that the American right likes to demonise by calling them "socialist"—and granted, it is chiefly the right that does so, but the fact that rightists are so rarely confronted and ridiculed for it means that they have successfully muddied the political discourse to the point where an awful lot of Americans have only the flimsiest grasp of what socialism is.}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Rear Platform and Other Informal Remarks in New York {{!}} Harry S. Truman |url=https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/library/public-papers/289/rear-platform-and-other-informal-remarks-new-york |access-date=2022-08-30 |website=www.trumanlibrary.gov}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news |last=Astor |first=Maggie |date=2019-06-12 |title=What Is Democratic Socialism? Whose Version Are We Talking About? |language=en-US |work=The New York Times |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/12/us/politics/democratic-socialism-facts-history.html |access-date=2022-08-30 |issn=0362-4331}}</ref> One criticism especially related to state socialism is the [[economic calculation problem]],<ref>{{cite book|title=Economic calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth|access-date=11 November 2019|last=Von Mises|first=Ludwig|author-link=Ludwig von Mises|year=1990|publisher=Mises Institute|url=https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Economic%20Calculation%20in%20the%20Socialist%20Commonwealth_Vol_2_3.pdf}}</ref><ref>Hayek, Friedrich (1935). "The Nature and History of the Problem". "The Present State of the Debate". ''Collectivist Economic Planning''. pp. 1–40, 201–243.</ref> followed by the [[socialist calculation debate]].<ref>Durlauf, Steven N.; Blume, Lawrence E., ed. (1987). ''The New Palgrave Dictionary of Economics Online''. Palgrave Macmillan. {{doi|10.1057/9780230226203.1570}}.</ref><ref>Biddle, Jeff; Samuels, Warren; Davis, John (2006). ''A Companion to the History of Economic Thought, Wiley-Blackwell''. p. 319. "What became known as the socialist calculation debate started when von Mises (1935 [1920]) launched a critique of socialism".</ref><ref>Levy, David M.; Peart, Sandra J. (2008). "Socialist calculation debate". ''The New Palgrave Dictionary of Economics'' (2nd ed.). Palgrave Macmillan. {{ISBN|978-0333786765}}.</ref>
 
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