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====Secondary Period====
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 14%23Secondary Period]]
*<span id="Secondary Period">{{no redirect|1 = Secondary Period }}</span> → [[:Mesozoic]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:Secondary Period|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Secondary Period|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Secondary Period|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2023-02-05&end=2023-03-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Secondary_Period|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Secondary Period|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Secondary Period]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Secondary Period|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Secondary Period]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Secondary Period|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Secondary Period]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
 
Delete as misleading; the Mesozoic is an era, not a period. [[:User:An anonymous username, not my real name|<span style="color: #48717A ; text-decoration: inherit;">'''An anonymous username, not my real name'''</span>]] 03:05, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 
:{{Comment}} I do not support or oppose the nomination, but I *do* believe it should be handled in the same manner as [[Secondary period]] (which redirects to the same place, [[Mesozoic]]) and [[Primary period]] (which redirects to [[Paleozoic]]). [[User:Jdaloner|Jdaloner]] ([[User talk:Jdaloner|talk]]) 05:33, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
:'''Disambiguate/Keep'''&nbsp;– Periods within the Mesozoic era do have synonymous names as secondary periods, and there is evidence of "secondary period" being used as a uniting term for all three, such as these Google Books results: [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Miscellany/o-s_AQAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&bsq=%22Secondary+Period%22&dq=%22Secondary+Period%22] [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Natural_History_Primer/e_RDAQAAMAAJ?gbpv=1&dq=%22Secondary+Period%22&pg=PA94] [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Faculty_Meetings_with_Rudolf_Steiner/4Fx1o6LoDNgC?gbpv=1&dq=%22Secondary+Period%22&pg=PT77]. Since its use is verifiable, this is a plausible search term to lead to the Mesozoic era. Misleadingness is ''not'' a problem here, since the target is not unexpected. {{tl|R from incorrect name}} can be used, however.
:However, it is ambiguous. On Wikipedia, this term is commonly used for star brightness cycles based on results of a search. [[Variable star]] may work as a link in that case, though I'm not sure whether it is covered properly there. [[Secondary education]] also appears to be a reasonable search target. It does seem plausible for Mesozoic to be the primary topic, making a DAB page unnecessary, though. [[User:Randi Moth|Randi Moth]] ([[User talk:Randi Moth|talk]]) 18:45, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
::"{{tq|Secondary education also appears to be a reasonable search target.}}"
::[[Secondary education]] itself does not refer to its topic as such, and I've never encountered "secondary period" as a reference to secondary education. Searching around for {{tq|"secondary+period"}} most of my results appeared to be related to finance/law (Google, Bing), astronomy/space (Google Scholar, ScienceDirect) or various periodic phenomena in biology (ScienceDirect; usually alongside references to an "initial period"), not education. Education seems like a stretch to me. Did you find something I didn't? – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 22:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Found it be used in [[Education in Thailand]] and assumed it to be more common. Of course, Wikipedia articles themselves are not a good indicator whether this is common or not. If using "secondary period" for education is implausible, then keeping the redirect to [[Mesozoic]] is fine with a hatnote added linking to the variable star cycles per [[WP:ONEOTHER]]. [[User:Randi Moth|Randi Moth]] ([[User talk:Randi Moth|talk]]) 08:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
::::Looking at [[Education in Thailand]], it could just be a particular editor's choice of wording, perhaps to avoid confusion as elsewhere it uses "level" not "period" ("{{tq|elementary and secondary levels}}") but at the particular instance where "period" is used "level" has been used in reference to a particular qualification ("{{tq|Three levels of TVE}}"). – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 12:40, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 
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