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:::::::::No. Not every challenge is a challenge based on [[WP:V]]. Per the examples I have brought up several times already, challenges can be made by claiming the content is in violation of [[WP:UNDUE]] or [[WP:TRIVIA]], which is entirely subjective. [[User:Where is Matt?|Where is Matt?]] ([[User talk:Where is Matt?|talk]]) 18:31, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
:::''All'' challenges are subjective, and UNDUE and TRIVIA appear to have widespread community backing. "This content doesn't belong here" ''in any form'' is a valid challenge, editors do not and should not have to know Wikipedia wordsalad to form a challenge that meets anyone's expectations.
::::No, not all challenges are subjective. [[WP:V]] challenges are objective. Content is either verifiable by [[WP:RS]] or not. [[User:Where is Matt?|Where is Matt?]] ([[User talk:Where is Matt?|talk]]) 18:36, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
:::I put forward some ideas to make it clearer that ONUS shouldn't be used as the initial reason for removing content, an issue it shares with "no consensus", but it didn't go anywhere. -- LCU '''[[User:ActivelyDisinterested|ActivelyDisinterested]]''' <small>''«[[User talk:ActivelyDisinterested|@]]»'' °[[Special:Contributions/ActivelyDisinterested|∆t]]°</small> 17:09, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
* I would note that the linked "Edit Ninja" description is also a description of how editing wikipedia must appear to most trolls. [[User:Horse Eye's Back|Horse Eye's Back]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye's Back|talk]]) 18:11, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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