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== Capitalization of the word "Universe" ==
 
Shouldn't it be the Universe? I mean we only have one universe, doesn't it make the "universe" a [[proper noun]]? According to English grammar rules, all proper nouns should be capitalized, isn't it? [[Special:Contributions/120.16.2.76|120.16.2.76]] ([[User talk:120.16.2.76|talk]]) 10:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 
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::MOS has had several discussions about this, one in 2014 [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters/Archive 14#Capitalization of universe]], a long one with an RfC in 2015 [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters/Archive 18#Try again for "Universe/universe" consensus?]] one in 2016 [[Wikipedia Talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters/Archive 23#Universe v. universe]]. None of these came to a consensus. Looks like they gave up.
::We had a discussion on this page in 2019, see [[Talk:Universe/Archive 4#Capitalization of Universe]], also with no consensus. In it I did an (unsystematic) survey of recently published astronomy books and there didn't seem to be a consensus, some capitalized and some didn't. I suppose someone could look at the major refereed astronomical journals, and see if there is a consensus policy in those. --[[User:Chetvorno|Chetvorno]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Chetvorno|<i style="color: Purple;">TALK</i>]]</small></sup> 06:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
:::The astronomical books stored in my local library use the capitalized Universe. I think the consensus among the estabished astronomical societies is to treat the Universe as a proper noun and always capitalizing the word, which is the same method they use to resolve the Earth/earth issue. [[Special:Contributions/120.16.2.76|120.16.2.76]] ([[User talk:120.16.2.76|talk]]) 08:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 
:::The astronomical books stored in my local library use the capitalized Universe. I think the consensus among the estabished astronomical societies is to treat the Universe as a proper noun and always capitalizing the word, which is the same method they use to resolve the Earth/earth issue. [[Special:Contributions/120.16.2.76|120.16.2.76]] ([[User talk:120.16.2.76|talk]]) 08:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 
::I think all proper nouns begin with the [[definite article]] are always capitalized (e.g. the Sun, the Moon, the [[Tibetan Plateau]], and the [[National Basketball Association]] etc.). [[Special:Contributions/120.16.2.76|120.16.2.76]] ([[User talk:120.16.2.76|talk]]) 08:38, 6 July 2024 (UTC)