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I have an idea. The effort being used here by both sides on an article about a mediocre dietary supplement could be used to improve dozens of articles to GA/FA status. Hmm........ — '''[[User:Deckiller|Deckill]][[User talk:Deckiller|er]]''' 01:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:Very well, continue your bickering :) — '''[[User:Deckiller|Deckill]][[User talk:Deckiller|er]]''' 07:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[User:Deckiller|Deckill]], it is an excellent idea. There is a problem here, however. I think what is going on is we have a perfect storm of Wikipedia interests here. (Pardon the editorial, its not relevant to the article, but might be interesting to some.) First we have the company here, interested in making this a favorable article to their product (see above). Then we have juice plus fans, folks who are ''believers'' in the product. This group will not be happy as long as the article has negative information. So next we have some folks who see some weaknesses in this product. I (one of them) believe they (we) are well informed, NPOV and don't want this site to become a marketing conduit for a product. Naturally if both sides here can adhere to WP policy, we might make wonderful use of Wikipedia to arrive at something informative and NPOV for readers. In a sense I see that happening, if not painfully slow. All the back in forth between these two groups is what makes this ''mediocre'' supplement such a big issue, and touches a deeper issue on how corporate interests intersect with Wikipedia. Which brings us to a third group of folks here who are showing up to debate because they are true Wikipedia enthusiasts (the admins, etc). I personally believe these editors really see this article as a great chance to iron out and ''teach'' wikipedia policy. And, I must admit, they seem to be really amazing people who can really see NPOV and pick up diverse topics, and, somehow, have lots of time. So yes, I think this whole thing isseems silly at first glance -- so much more could be accomplished by devoting energy elsewhere, but I think we are really doing something important here. And I think we are all learning something. So I don't think this debate will end anytime soon. So hop on in :) [[User:Tbbooher|Tbbooher]] 02:21, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 
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