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There are two separate articles on "state socialism": [[State socialism]] and [[State Socialism]]. I recommend that the subject of the lower-case article should be about the theory about communist economies and the upper-case article should be about the State Socialism in Bismarck's Germany, with a link at the beginning of each article to the other. [[User:The Four Deuces|The Four Deuces]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 17:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:I have made the changes. [[User:The Four Deuces|The Four Deuces]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 23:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 
==Bismarck==
 
I have reverted Rocketman116's edits because he has added his opinion which I do think is justified by the sources. A. J. P. Taylor is quite clear: "Since he could not shake the Centre, he would win over the Social Democrats—not certainly be appealing to their leaders, whom he was persecuting and sending to prison, but by a constructive social programme, which he hoped would detach the working-class voters from the Social Democratic party. It would be unfair to say that Bismarck took up social welfare solely to weaken the Social Democrats; he had had it in mind for a long time, and believed in it deeply. But as usual he acted on his beliefs at the exact moment when they served a practical need. challenge drove him forward. He first avowed his social programme when Bebel taunted him with his old friendship with Lassalle. He answered by calling himself a Socialist, indeed a more practical Socialist than the Social Democrats; and he provocatively rejoiced in echoing Frederick the Great's wish to be ''le roi des guex'', king of the poor. Richter, the Progressive leader, called Bismarck's proposals 'not Socialistic, but Communistic'. The proposal was merely that part of the cost of Socials Insurance should be borne by the state; and nowadays Bismarck seems the progressive, Richter the unenlightened reactionary".—''Bismarck. The Man and the Statesman'' (London: Hamish Hamilton, 1955), p. 202. I think my edit reflected what the source said: Bismarck introduced state socialism for opportunistic reasons and because he genuinely believed in it.--[[User:Britannicus|Britannicus]] ([[User talk:Britannicus|talk]]) 16:29, 26 July 2010 (UTC)