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--[[User:Flexdream|Flexdream]] ([[User talk:Flexdream|talk]]) 22:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:Agreed, I came here to change that. He was Anglo-Irish ethnically, but there's no such nationality. He was British. I'm changing it. [[User:Jonchapple|Jonchapple]] ([[User talk:Jonchapple|talk]]) 09:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 
This one always causes a debate on wikipedia is there any way of sorting it out? God knows I suppose. For one, we could say that there is a difference between a nation and a state (as Weber et al would)-the state being the land ruled by the government the nation being the people with a shared culture, a little bit simplistic but there you go. In the case of Great Britain during the time under discussion it was actually known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Act of Union 1801)-Ireland was treated as a different (not seperate but different) territory. This can be evidenced by looking at acts and laws where the heading Ireland was always used for example the Census of Ireland was used on the census returns. I know from studying the period and looking at many Hansard debates that an MP from Ireland was referred to as being from Ireland. I suppose what I am trying to say in a long winded way is that the term Irish/British were not always mutually exclusive which, seems to cause a lot of confusion nowadays. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.47.12.178|86.47.12.178]] ([[User talk:86.47.12.178|talk]]) 21:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
:: There is, however, a nationality called Irish and given that he was born in [[Ireland]] rather than [[Great Britain|Britain]] that is the most natural designation. [[Special:Contributions/86.42.16.3|86.42.16.3]] ([[User talk:86.42.16.3|talk]]) 00:37, 22 February 2011 (UTC)