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::Okay, you should read your sentence - It says the '''discovery''' increased subjugation. Then you should really read the cited resources, the one is quite a good read. The other, is not so relevant to what is being claimed here and should be moved/removed... Read them - and see what I am saying. You are jumping from 1869 and 1884 to 1899 hmm, better than me trying to explain all this to you just see [[WP:SYN]] - What you are saying is true but not where it is and how it is said. Hut taxes or kraal taxes is entirely a different subject? And the ZAR was 100% white and even belonged only to two churches, they were racists, who is talking about racism?, oh yes, you are. Regarding ''indigenous'' some of the boers have at that time already been in southern africa for a few hundred years and if you look at the definition of the word indigenous, they were in fact already unique enough to qualify as such, again, that is completely a different discussion to the dispute? Our edit difference lies herein: '''this section deals with the discovery of gold and diamonds''' did the discovery of gold and diamonds itself lead to an immediate increase in the level of subjugation to the ''indigenous'' population of a non existent town Johannesburg? - '''no, it did not even exist yet'''. what it did lead to is an increase in the level of conflict between British and Boer, the entire ZAR belonged to the Boers, not the British and certainly not the Zulus or Xhosas or Sothos - again - at that time (1869 and 1184) - So, can you please deal with that and try not to involve racism or racialism or other topics - you can add additional content or sections if you feel that something should be said about racism (look at [[South African Republic]] and racism section... - this, however has nothing to do with our current dispute... [[User:Zarpboer|Zarpboer]] ([[User talk:Zarpboer|talk]]) 14:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
:::Please complete our discussion here... before editing / edit warring [[User:Zarpboer|Zarpboer]] ([[User talk:Zarpboer|talk]]) 14:36, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
:::Changing the discovery of gold subjugation agenda to the mine taxes of 1903 under the Union of South Africa - as per your new sahistory citation, '''is not cool'''
this is an encyclopedia? We are now at 1869 not anywhere near 1903 and that is even after three major wars and in a different country? - I realise you want to push your POV, but stick to the topic? - add a new section - mines and how the mines served to further subjugate and oppress the black man, etc. i have no problem with that, but lets get there first so it makes sense... [[User:Zarpboer|Zarpboer]] ([[User talk:Zarpboer|talk]]) 14:42, 29 September 2014 (UTC)