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Invitation

Hello Zictor23, I appreciate your contributions to the various political pages of New Zealand. I'd like to WP:NZP and its talk page to your attention. On the talk page, you find various suggestions that could do with some input. Given that you obviously have some expertise in that area, your feedback would be valuable. Schwede66 21:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Citing sources

Hello Zictor23, I suggest that you have a look at a couple of pages on citations. It's great to see that you use citations (often, new editors don't!), but you could provide more detail, and the use of citation templates would help you with that. Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners is worth a look (although I assume you've had a look at this already), and you could then follow up with WP:CITEQR. The latter is a manual method. You can also create citations using the edit toolbar, which is what most editors do (I believe). In 'My preferences', go to the 'Gadgets' tab and check 'refTools' under 'Editing gadgets'. That way, a 'cite' button will be added to your toolbar and when you click it, it brings up cite templates.

I hope you appreciate this. Schwede66 19:31, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Would you like to learn how to use cite tools? If so, I could mentor you. Schwede66 21:51, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello Zictor23, thanks for your message on my talk page. You ask for an outline of how to use cite tools. For that, please follow the two links in my 3 May message. I suggest that in order to try it out, you use the 'manual method' for a reference that you have already created and convert it with what is given there. When you've done it, feel free to leave me a note and I'll have a look at it and give you feedback. It's not complicated – not any more complicated than providing references at all. Schwede66 19:38, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Regarding your recent edit on First Liberal Government of New Zealand, I'm going to undo this. Giving a reference a name, as had been done, avoids it being listing with more than one entry in the reference list. Whenever you refer to it subsequently, you just quote the name as had been done. Please do read up on Wikipedia:Citation_templates#Using_the_same_footnote_multiple_times. Schwede66 23:08, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits

Hello, Zictor23, and welcome to Wikipedia. I take it you are a fairly new user? You have been working hard recently. I am only a little more experienced than you in the techniques and policies of Wikipedia, so I am not the best person to mentor you -- there are others with far greater knowledge and experience. This said, I do want to raise some issues -- in what is sincerely intended to be a constructive way -- about some of your recent edits, especially those connected to the Harold Wilson article.

One is to suggest some care in moving large sections of text from one article to another. You deleted the entire section providing a summary on Conspiracy Theories from the main article on Harold Wilson and then seem to have more-or-less pasted it into the more detailed article on Harold Wilson Conspiracy Theories. I assume the initial deletion was done with a view to shortening the Harold Wilson article (possibly to make way for the extensive material you added to this article). It is a matter of judgement whether the main article is improved by the deletion -- I feel not but will propose this question for discussion by other editors. What is very clear is that the article on Conspiracy Theories has been made into something of a mess, with separate discussions of exactly the same subjects repeating themselves. If you are going to add material to an article like this, please give thought and attention to what it will do to the article where you are pasting, as otherwise a mess is created for others to try to clean up.

Please also take note that Wikipedia sets great store by its principle of Neutrality of Point of View. This is discussed in greater detail in specific guidelines. My own sense is that the extensive material you added to the Wilson article may not meet this standard -- it sounds to me more like a brief on behalf of the Wilson administration than a neutral discussion -- but again I am raising this for other views.

Here, too, it seemed to me there was a separate question of how best to integrate your new material with the existing article. You added it all to an existing section on social issues, but your material covered a much wider range of policies (transportation, etc.) not normally classified as social issues. I've therefore proposed a new section in the article.

Again, please see this as intended as constructive feedback. Using Wikipedia is a learning experience for all of us, and I wish I was myself more wise in its ways to be able to give you more detailed advice. Good luck in your future edits! Nandt1 (talk) 13:42, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Note: Copied from Nandt1's discussion page:

Dear Nandt1,

Thank you for the feedback. I apologise for deleting the information on Harold Wilson conspiracy theories: I only intended to shorten the section on Harold Wilson, but it was not my intention to cause any mess. I laos hope that I didn't come across as biased: I merely wished to add information regarding reforms by Harold Wilson's governments so that people could see what was achieved by the Labour Party in office during the course of the Sixties and seventies, but it was not my intention to biased. I have also made sure that reforms I add are referenced, so that people could see that the information I provide is not false. I will also be more careful in future when deleting information that is in an article when adding my own information.

Kindest regards,

Zictor23. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zictor23 (talk • contribs) 15:21, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello, again, Zictor23,

Thank you for your response on my talk page. Right now I am rather tied up with "real" work (the kind that pays the bills) and am having to put Wikipedia on the back burner. I have flagged my concerns on the Discussion pages for Harold Wilson and Harold Wilson Conspiracy Theories. Let's see if other editors have any comments one way or another. Good luck to you for now. Nandt1 (talk) 22:55, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

And hello, yet again, Zictor23,

OK, since you said that you had not intended to make the full extent of the changes that you in fact made on the Conspiracy Theories, I thought the best thing would be for me to revert the relevant section and article back to where they were before you started. I have now done this.

Please learn how to revert an edit which you make unintentionally in the future. If you do so more-or-less immediately, you can use the Undo feature on the History page of the article concerned. But if you wait too long, this may not work because there may have been too many intermediate edits (this was the case when I made these changes just now, so I had to copy and paste instead).

Please also note that, whenever you write a comment on any discussion page, you are supposed to sign it. This you do by typing four tildes (this sign on the keyboard ~). Wikipedia will translate this into your signature. Again, good luck. It is worth investing a bit of time in learning your way around Wikipedia and how it works technically.Nandt1 (talk) 10:51, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Ben Chifley

Hello Zictor, I can see that you are keen to contribute as am I and I think it important we cooperate to make Wiki as good as it can be. With the article of Ben Chifley I appreciate you have found a source that says that Chifley contributed to Education Reform in his time in office. I posted that in the talk section and removed that from the article because it isn't true, even though you have a source that asserts it, and even if it were true, it's wording does not fit in with the Wiki policy of maintaining a neutral point of view. I am asking that you delete that reference or justify in the talk area why the reference should remain and modify it so that it fits with wiki standards. DDB (talk) 00:07, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Labour reforms

Why have you deleted some of the reforms in Third Labour Government of New Zealand and similar articles?-gadfium 22:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Information cannot be copyrighted. It is not valid to say that you cannot use any information from a published work. However, you cannot simply copy the wording, since the expression of the information is subject to copyright.

It appears that the thesis is no longer available online (I checked http://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/bitstream/10092/2648/1/Thesis_fulltext.pdf), but this does not invalidate the information it contained. The articles can be restored and the references marked with {{dead link}}. At some point, some editor might find new sources for the information. It would be very easy, if somewhat time consuming, to sift through hard copies of newspapers of the era in an archive to get suitable refs. For the most part, the information added is not likely to be challenged, so this is not an urgent matter.

I request you restore the information on this basis.-gadfium 19:07, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

National Insurance (Industrial Injuries) Act 1946 etc

When creating a new article, please remember to put it in geographical context: Wikipedia is international, so you need to specify what country an Act belongs to. It is also standard WP practice to start the article with its title (perhaps preceded by "The"), and not just "This is....". If in doubt it is often helpful to look at existing well-developed articles for similar items, in this case similar acts of the UK parliament, to get an idea for the format of the opening sentence. I've upgraded your two stub articles in this way. Also, when citing a book as a source of reference you should give date and publisher, and the page on which you found your information. Thanks. PamD (talk) 22:19, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Whitlam

I've reverted your (good faith) edits... due to duplication, what was added is already covered in next section. Not to mention, the page has recently been awarded Featured Article status due to it's comprehensiveness. Timeshift (talk) 21:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

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Education (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1948

Thanks for this article and your many others; it's great to know there's another person here writing about law :). Drop a note on my talkpage if you need any help finding sources! Ironholds (talk) 20:55, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Household statistics

I moved your statistics to the Household article because they are about households, not solely about houses. The statistics include apartments and other dwellings, but the house article is only about houses, so the statistics are not appropriate and in fact they would tell the reader incorrect information. Binksternet (talk) 22:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Australian Labor Party

You added: "In Western Australia, Forrest introduced a conciliation and arbitration bill in 1900 which brought trade unions into the state’s social fabric for the first time ever. In addition, WA Labor scored another victory with the passage of legislation which extended workers’ compensation." Sir John Forrest was not a Labor Premier, so what's the relevance of this? This article is already a long one, ans it can't include every reform carried out by every Labor government. It certainly can't include things done by non-Labor governments, even if Labor supported them. I'm going to remove this section. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 00:23, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

So you've reverted my edit. Now you need to explain why something John Forrest did belongs in this article. You also have to produce a reference for your apparent belief that the Australian Labor Party (as opposed to NSW amd Qld labour parties) was founded in 1891. Good luck with that. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 12:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

It is stated by various historians that the ALP was founded in 1891. As far as I understand it, Labor's support for Forrest helped bring about those reforms, so I feel that it is relevant to mention him. In addition, I see nothing wrong with including various Labor reforms. Its important to spread knowledge. I feel that that is what it means to be a Wikipedean. zictor23 (talk) 12:40, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

On the first point: kindly produce a citation from a historian stating that the ALP, a federal party, was founded in 1891, ten years before the federation existed. On the second point, if this article included every reform carried out by every Labor state government, it would be thousands of words long. This is not the place to list all these things. And it's certainly not the place to list things done by non-Labor governments with Labor support. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 00:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Of course it is. That's like saying Labor's emission's trading isn't to be mentioned on the Greens page, Mr Toad. Timeshift (talk) 02:58, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Jack Lang

Hi. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. You seem to have a strong in Labor history. You recently added additional content and a book to the article, Jack Lang. However, you failed to provide inline citations in terms of Wikipedia citation policy. Also, you listed The Light on the Hill: The Australian Labor Party 1891-1991 by Ross McMullin in the books section. However, the book is not listed in alphabetical order, or in the format as all other books are listed in this article. Whilst I could go through and correct that above matters, I do not have access to the book to know from what page you drew the refs, nor publication information. Would you please revisit and provide direct references for the stated claims? Thank you. You may also wish to keep in mind for other edits. Keep up the great work. Regards. Rangasyd (talk) 01:04, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Rangasyd. Thank you for the praise you gave me in regards to my edits. I have long taken a great interest in Labor history. It always makes me feel very happy when I receive positive feedback for my contributions. I promise that in future when I make a reference I will mention the page. Unfortunately, in relation to the Ross McMullin book, I no longer have it (it was a library book I ordered and had to return recently). But I promise that in future I will provide direct references when making a contribution. Kindest regards, zictor23 (talk) 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks for the thanks! I've added the template next to your inserted text at Jack Lang and removed the book by McMullin, as it was already listed in alphabetical order. Please note, when you're replying to messages on talk pages, use the colon (:) to indent each message, progressively increasing the indentation, like I have done with your reply, and this response. Cheers Rangasyd (talk) 14:03, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Regarding Re-take

Re-take is not an official piece of NGE media. So if any information were to be placed it would be in a "Legacy section" depending. However, you're a lil obsessed over doujinshi that have been read by NGE staff. I dont think the information (unless a true third party source) is useful. Doujinshi is common and hardly ever notable. I suggest pursuing ways to improve other aspects. Also i removed it because it contained a forum link. next time, if i revert again for 2 thirds the reason if not half, then instead of re0reverting, edit it again and add the information. ALso find ways to figure out whats a reliable sourceLucia Black (talk) 22:55, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Also...this isn't a forum for us to discuss meaningless things....try to keep your conversations about improving the articles.Lucia Black (talk) 22:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Thats exactly my point. This isn't a place for fans let out their fandom. THis is a site to help improve articles and create them (and clean up the non notable subjects).Lucia Black (talk) 23:37, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the response Lucia Black. Personally though, I don't think that everything I mentioned was meaningless. There were people who took interest in my comments. Also Lucia Black, what did you mean when you said "Thats exactly my point.?" I didn't understand what you meant by that. Also, what did you mean when you said "This isn't a place for fans let out their fandom.?" Lastly, regarding your comments about doujinshi hardly ever being notable, I think Re-Take (for example) is notable, because I've read that it is very popular and is regarded as one of the best/best known Eva doujinshis, if not the best/best known. Presumably, that's partly beacuse it continues from where the "End of Evangelion" left off (which had an open ending).

zictor23 (talk) 11:17, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

They have no meaning here in wikipedia. Some may have taken an interest, but that doesn't mean you were helping. And you are not a third party reliable source. Also, it has been attempted to prove its notability before, but doujinshi is usually never reliable, 1) they are fanmade versions of the official media. 2) there are dozens if not hundreds of doujinshi for one series. To mention it expands to doujinshi is one thing but trying to put Re-take info as a source isn't true. Also you need to work on what the article is saying and what the source is saying. If article says "it has become popular among dojinshi" you would need a source saying something along those lines, not give an example. Two true statements don't always make the third statement true. For an example Chrono Trigger: Crimson Echoes is a good example of a notable fan-made media.Lucia Black (talk) 17:23, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

IN order for you to learn, i wont answer that. because it's irrelevant to improving the current articles.Lucia Black (talk) 17:53, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

It does. its wasting my time. ASk friendly irrelevant questions in wikia insteadLucia Black (talk) 18:18, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I hope that someday Re-Take gets an official release and/or an naime adaptation. zictor23 (talk)

UK Dragonball Z DVDs

I learnt today on both Amazon and Anime News Network that all 291 episodes of Dragon Ball Z are finally going to be released here on DVD in the UK, starting from July onwards. I am really happy. Its taken so long for this to finally happen.zictor23 (talk) 23:52, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Some interesting Eva links

http://www.evangelion-armageddon.com/Scripts/EOE2.html

http://www.evaotaku.com/html/evafaq.html

http://www.mechatalk.net/viewtopic.php?p=225864

http://forum.evageeks.org/post/375083/DOUJINSHI-Re-Take/

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?564952-IWIW-Evangelion-Part-5-The-Many-Worlds-Interpretation-fanworks-and-spinoffs/page20

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/secondgryphon/Sketches/EVA/DoujinshiSamples/ReTake-25-TheOath.jpg

http://www.evacommentary.org/omake/gos2_faq.txt

http://www.mangareader.net/687-44283-11/neon-genesis-evangelion/chapter-83.html

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Interesting links

http://forum.evageeks.org/post/531711/Girlfriend-of-Steel-2-pics-Enjoy-XD/

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ts5W5Mxo-akC&pg=PA8&dq=billy+casper+miner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=23TqU4aYDaPT7Aah5YC4CA&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=billy%20casper%20miner&f=false

http://www.thebhc.org/publications/BEHprint/v012/p0094-p0108.pdf

http://www.sparrowspointsteelworkers.com/html/project.html

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=P_cJ5z_e9IsC&pg=PA110&dq=American+steelworkers+high+wages+1970&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KVSgT4SjNsaR0AX09JG6Aw&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=American%20steelworkers%20high%20wages%201970&f=false

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=B1UEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA33&dq=American+steelworkers+low+wages+1960&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VY-2ULvWCYuRhQfWg4GoAQ&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBDgo#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://news.yahoo.com/iceman-mummy-holds-worlds-oldest-blood-cells-230805449.html

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=e1N0pcEOcAUC&pg=PA85&dq=percentage+of+workers+subcontracting+in+japan&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NRmwT-TZIouS8gPe6_msCQ&ved=0CGcQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=percentage%20of%20workers%20subcontracting%20in%20japan&f=false

http://www.re-public.gr/en/?p=2624

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HtGb2wNsgn4C&pg=PA107&dq=new+york+heroin+drug+abuse+working-class+neighborhoods&hl=en&sa=X&ei=V422UJWlHcO4hAeu4YCYDQ&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=new%20york%20heroin%20drug%20abuse%20working-class%20neighborhoods&f=false

http://forum.evageeks.org/post/385239/Has-anybody-else-finished-Shinji-Ikari-Raising-Project/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzlypwc1AQM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLOj83QniWI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnKdsy6-4y0&feature=relmfu

http://health.yahoo.net/articles/depression/photos/12-surprising-causes-depression#0

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=NV1A57wmPh8C&pg=PA57&lpg=PA57&dq=steelworkers+steaks&source=bl&ots=bBjX5tm3Qh&sig=vK3BPlur1F3jpY8fTKCv1czQ5kI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Go5gUMejIOnA0QXAmIHIAQ&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=steelworkers%20steaks&f=false

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Ctv5j--wFF4C&pg=PA171&dq=pittsburgh+steelworkers+high+wages&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WNmSUMDtI4S60QWqm4DgBg&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=pittsburgh%20steelworkers%20high%20wages&f=false http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zP-3cRLe5R0C&pg=PA86&dq=pittsburgh+steelworkers+high+wages&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wdqSUKaNCOOe0QXLooCQCw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAzgy#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=YN9i74gcansC&pg=PA86&dq=fluctuations+in+annual+earnings+steelworkers&hl=en&sa=X&ei=kUjKUJ_oCIub1AXXv4CgBg&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=fluctuations%20in%20annual%20earnings%20steelworkers&f=false

http://pittsburghinwords.org/john_hoerr.html

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Info about steeworkers from Jim Shooter

jimshooter said... The United Steelworkers Union lagged well behind other major labor unions -- the machinists, auto workers, mine workers, others -- in winning decent wages and benefits for their members. Other union jobs paid higher at the time.

http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/4211/RE-TAKE-deserves-its-own-anime-Why-not/60/? http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/nov/25/highest-paid-jobs-uk-201 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-18/america-s-dirty-war-against-manufacturing-part-1-carl-pope.html http://forum.evageeks.org/post/385239/Has-anybody-else-finished-Shinji-Ikari-Raising-Project/ http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OOMxODBGC9wC&pg=PA119&lpg=PA119&dq=cadillac+autoworkers+high+wages&source=bl&ots=w1CLyp5HwQ&sig=sQH-XVgZoogpwOL06jK_Povs_nU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xMdkUOODNYek0QWluIHAAg&ved=0CEgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=cadillac%20autoworkers%20high%20wages&f=false

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=H7mhOyV4gaIC&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=steelworkers+car+ownership&source=bl&ots=VTuqIdTeYO&sig=gxHTnHKNXO4-qQLNXY9S1rwGTLs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lOh1UJGCHKnK0QXJo4EI&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=steelworkers%20car%20ownership&f=false http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOjRMuuHHR4

https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/handle/1807/17818

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Democrat Party

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Social liberalism - reliable sources - original research

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Proposed deletion of Labour's Record

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Labour's Record was the name of a section from the British Labour Party Manifesto of 1979. It listed the various measures undertaken by the Labour governments of Harold Wilson and James Callaghan from 1974 to 1979. The measures included the following:

• Rate of inflation reduced to single figures.

• Funds made available to hold down or reduce some food prices.

• Maximum prices on subsidised foods laid down.

• Value for money information given to shoppers. Over 300 local price surveys sponsored by Government.

• Price Commission asked by Government to examine bank charges, books, footwear, coal, TV rentals, school uniforms, spectacles, coffee, tea and beer, resulting in prices being lower than they otherwise would be.

• Tough bargaining in Europe over Common Agricultural Policy has resulted in price rises being held to a minimum, despite Tory attempts to force prices up.

• Compulsory unit pricing on meat, fish and fresh vegetables, cheese and pre-packed milk In vending machines.

• Government funds subsidise over 120 Consumer Advice Centres up and down the country.

• Consumer Credit Act and Unfair Contract Terms Act safeguard the consumer against sharp practice.

• Price Control legislation toughened up by removing the safeguard provisions of the 1977 Act, under which many companies were allowed automatic price increases.

• £3,000 million deficit left by Tories now completely wiped out.

• British oil to benefit the British people; British National Oil Corporation set up. Oil Taxation Act gives nation 75 per cent share of profits.

• More cash help for families. Child Benefit covers all children including the first, is tax-free and is paid direct to the mother. It went up to £4 a week in April this year.

• One-parent families not receiving a long-term National Insurance benefit get an extra £2 a week on top of Child Benefit.

• Three new benefits to help disabled people and those who look after them. Mobility Allowance of £10 a week payable to drivers and non-drivers alike to be increased in November. Invalid Care Allowance for men and women who give up work to care for a disabled relative. And a Non-Contributory Invalidity Pension to help disabled people unable to work.

• Pensions have gone up six times under Labour and they will rise again in November. The single pension, now £19.50 will be about £22 in November. The married couples pension, now £31.20, will be about £35. Pensioners have seen a 20 per cent real increase in their standard of living since the last Tory government.

• Labour’s new pension scheme started in April 1978. It will take future pensioners out of poverty, with an earnings-related scheme fully protected against inflation.

• Labour paid a £10 Christmas bonus in 1978 – over 10 million people benefited.

• 83 per cent of state pupils now in comprehensive schools. 11 plus rapidly being phased out.

• Direct grant schools being phased out.

• Classes are getting smaller – pupil-teacher ratios improving. Proportion of classes over 30 fell from 54 per cent under the Tories to under 33 per cent under Labour in primary schools, and from 18 per cent to 12 per cent in secondary schools.

• 366,000 jobs created or safeguarded in the regions by Government selective assistance.

• National Enterprise Board set up to help existing industries and start new ones, extend public ownership into profitable areas of industry and act as holding company for existing publicly owned enterprises. Now largest holding company in Britain with stake in over 40 companies.

• Employment Protection Act lays down new rights for workers. Part-time workers entitled to same treatment as full-time workers.

• Government-TUC-CBI Industrial Strategy under way. Key industrial sectors backed by £350 million through Government special schemes.

• Special support given to small firms, VAT simplified, tax concessions, new employment subsidy, more advice centres and fewer Government forms.

• Nationalisation of aircraft and shipbuilding industries protects jobs and strengthens the industries.

• Launching the micro-electronic revolution in Britain. Over £175 million of Government aid to boost the introduction of the new technology including £50 million to the NEB’s new UK micro-electronics firm INMOS.

• Tied cottage system in agriculture effectively ended.

• Mortgage lending boosted to all-time record levels.

• New help for first-time house buyers put on statute book.

• New programmes introduced to help run-down inner cities – worth £150 million this year alone – through construction work. Partnership Authorities, the Urban Programme, new Inner Urban Area Powers and ‘Operation Clean Up.’ Plus new emphasis on inner cities in main spending programmes.

• Wide-ranging new charter of rights for council tenants proposed in new Housing Bill.

• Women now get equal pension rights with men.

• Paid maternity leave with right of reinstatement guaranteed by Employment Protection Act.

• Legislation protecting minorities strengthened by Race Relations Act – new Commission with similar power to Equal Opportunities Commission set up.

• Independent element introduced into investigating complaints against the police. • Women now have right to equal pay if employed on work of same or broadly similar nature to that of man.

• Battered wives protected by new Act empowering courts to evict or arrest violent husbands.

• Sex discrimination in employment, education and housing, and the provision of goods, facilities and services outlawed.

• Rape victims given right to maintain anonymous and the offence of rape redefined, placing emphasis on lack of consent rather than on violence used as the essential element.

• Police force is 7,500 stronger now than it was under the Tories.

• Public spending on law and order is 20 per cent higher than under the Tories.

• A new form of grant aid designed to provide greater help to local authorities in meeting the special needs of ethnic minority groups within their areas proposed in Local Government (Ethnic Group) Bill. The new grant would be wider and more flexible than the existing arrangements.

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I think I have already tried to explain the importance of WP:Reliable sources for Wikipedia to you. If you are unsure, you might want to re-read WP:Identifying reliable sources. Sources should be independent and written and published by third parties, not by the subjects of the article themselves. This has nothing to do with the insinuation that someone lied, but with maintaining a WP:Neutral point of view, which is another fundamental pillar of Wikipedia. Thank you for your comprehension. Kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 22:44, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

If I have overlooked a reference to a reliable source and made a mistake when reverting your edit, I apologize. Regarding the self-identification: Parties self-identifying their own ideologies is always problematic, because they sometimes use political terms differently than independent observers and researchers do. E.g. the Croatian Social Liberal Party considers itself social liberal, Wolfram Nordsieck of "Parties and Elections" decribed it as conservative liberal, and they are usually placed on the centre-right. The Liberal Front Party of Brazil (today's Democrats) also claimed to be a social liberal party and at the time of the establishment some of the founders even proposed naming it "Social Liberal Party". However, it is usually considered a centre-right liberal conservative party. The Social Liberal Movement of Switzerland in fact is a social conservative party, according to an independent source. The Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland describes itself as liberal-social (whatever this is supposed to mean), yet it is a classical Christian democratic party. Therefore, we should not follow the self-identifications of parties, but insist on having confirmation from independent sources. --RJFF (talk) 22:07, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) (e/c) I think it might help to state that there are 2 seperate issues.

1) notability - is there third party coverage to indicate that the subject of the article can be appropriately covered in an encyclopedia article?

2) if there is sufficient coverage, the subject's own websites can be used to verify certain limited types of information: non-controversial and content that isn't self serving. If there are reliable third parties that contradict the subject's own view of their positioning, then both views are presented: "X calls themselves Y (source). THESE RESPECTED ANALYSTS call the group Z (source) (source) (source)]]. " -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:15, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello Zictor23,

Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources explains which sources are considered reliable for Wikipedia and which aren't. There is a Wikipedia:Reliable sources checklist to help you identify reliable sources. If you are in doubt, you can let sources be checked at the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 12:31, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Re:Gordon Brown edits

Thanks for adding the information to the Gordon Brown article! Now that it's in prose rather than list form it looks much better. However are you aware of the Premiership of Gordon Brown article? That article sets out the policies and reforms carried out by the Brown government and it seems to lack much of the information you added.

I propose that we move much of the information (in its current form, since it reads well) to that article. I also feel it would be of more benefit to the Premiership article because the policies are not directly the actions of Brown himself, so they're less relevant to an article on him. What do you think? -- Hazhk ^{Talk to me} 20:26, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

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I have already tried to explain Wikipedia's principle of WP:no original research to you. You should not let your own ideas and analysis influence your Wikipedia edits. "I recently read that it is a centre-right party." is not a valid reason to remove content that is supported by a reliable source. First, you have not shown a source that would say that SFP were a centre-right party. Second, the argumentation "One source says they are centre-right. Centre-right parties cannot be social liberal. Therefore SFP cannot be social liberal" is what we consider WP:Synthesis: a mix of the findings of different sources with some of your own beliefs. This is not accepted on Wikipedia. The only valid reason would be, if you could argue with substantiation, that the source is not neutral, unreliable, or misrepresented. But that is not what you have done. I hope that I succeeded in explaining these Wikipedia principles understandably and look forward to further constructive collaboration with you. Kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 14:03, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

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Social reforms in Italy

Thank you for adding the information on social reforms in Italy. Quite a job to get all that information. However, I moved the section about social security reforms in the articles about Alcide De Gasperi and Amintore Fanfani to a List of post-war social security reforms in Italy. The reason is that the very detailed, not interlinked, and long lists do not really contribute to a better understanding of the personalities of those politicians. These reforms were performed by ministers in their cabinets from different parties and not necessarily by the Prime Ministers themselves.

In addition the reforms have to be seen in context with the reforms of other cabinets, given the fact that Italian governments are often short-lived, particularly until the 1990s, and social security bills often overlap different cabinets. Consequently, they are not necessarily the work of one cabinet or one Prime Minister. In a separate article people nevertheless can check the reforms and appreciate the historical chronology.

I see you have been adding these kinds of lists to other Italian politicians as well. I hope you appreciate my suggestion to tackle the issue in a different way and will follow my example of moving your additions to this list, in which you may want to add some additional information on social reforms in Italy to give the reader an even more comprehensive insight in post-war social politics in Italy. Thank you for your understanding. - DonCalo (talk) 12:58, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Left wing or centre left

Sorry, here I am again. I noticed that you changed the leaning in the political spectrum of several Italian Christian Democratic politicians. For instance, you made Giulio Andreotti a right winger, and Aldo Moro a left winger. I cannot access the source on which you base this, but if this is what it claims the political leaning of those politicians is, I suggest you throw that source in the waste bin inmediately. Unless the source places them on the right or left wing in the DC, which would make some sense. However, being a left winger in the DC makes you a centre-left politician when considering the full spectrum of political parties in Italy where the communists would be left wing and fascists right wing. - DonCalo (talk) 14:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah, and by the way, it would be nice if you would follow the advice given to you in December 2010 on how to cite tools and, in any case, not use Bare URLs. Thank you again and happy editing. - DonCalo (talk) 14:22, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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! Year ended	Benefit actual	Benefit level proportion of after tax average earnings	Benefit real value ($1978 prices)
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March 1962	n/a	n/a	K.A.

Actually ...

regarding this edit, CTTOI you're right, that does happen in the film. Sorry about the revert. Daniel Case (talk) 03:19, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

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What are you doing here? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:22, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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"Corrected various errors" is an insufficient rationale for removing 6 kbytes of sourced content from the article. Please start a discussion on the article talk page to get consensus for the changes. Favonian (talk) 15:04, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

There was repetition. That's what I meant. Zictor23 (talk) 16:33, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Danjwilkie! Its so nice to read your message. It makes me happy knowing that people like yourself find my edits interesting.

One source I find very useful is Google Books, as it has both snippers and full or partial views of all kinds of texts. If you put in key words such as, for example "Benjamin Disraeli social reforms" a list of books will appear with those matching words. I can't remember which words I entered, but on GoogleBooks I came across a snippet of the book I am currently using as a source for my edits. GoogleBooks only had a snippet of the book but when I noticed from the snippet that the book was a comprehensive guide of various social reforms introduced under previous Conservative prime ministers I thought it would be good to get, which I did. I am going to be using it for editing the pages of other British prime ministers from the 19th and 20th centuries. The short title of the book is "Conservative social and industrial reform" by Charles E. Bellairs.

2 other sites I would recommend are HaitiTrust (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/mb) and the Wayback Machine (https://archive.org/web/). Both sites have hundreds of texts that you can read for free. I've found them particularly useful when finding information for editing Wikipedia pages. Zictor23 (talk) 17:47, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for helping me out on finding sources on the internet and improving my editing skills. I am very grateful for that and I appreciate your support. Danjwilkie (talk) 16:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

My pleasure Danjwilkie. If you do use those any of those sources I hope you find them useful. Zictor23 (talk) 20:17, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

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  I apologise. I didn't realise at the time when I added that information directly from an instruction manual. I hope you understand and that I can continue editing on Wikipedia. I will be more careful in future. Zictor23 (talk) 18:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Unblocking request

{{unblock|I was recently blocked because I was said to have breached copyright by adding information from a video game manual. I am fully aware of Wikipedia’s policies in regards to copyrighted material from having read pages such as these: ([[Wikipedia:Copyright|copyright policy]]) and [[Wikipedia:Non-free content|policies regarding how to use non-free content]]. I reviewed the whole manual prior to my edit. The only copyright it mentions relates to making a copy of the game, not of any information included in the manual itself. I did not feel that I breached any copyright, but if I did then this was a lack of awareness on my part. I hope that you consider my appeal as I would be happy to continue editing Wikipedia as I have since 2009. I feel that the decision to block me should be reversed, taking into account my awareness of Wikipedia’s policies regarding copyright, and the fact that it is not my intention to ever breach copyright policy.}}

Zictor23 (talk) 17:30, 21 December 2023 (UTC)