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@User:Morbidthoughts A basic level of literacy on matters of Native American identity isn't a tall order, and knowing that DNA tests don't reliably determine Indigeneity claims is the most basic of basic details. I would be shocked if you didn't already know this. It is baseless, and frankly weird, to classify someone as a person "of Native American descent" based solely on the self-reported results of a DNA test. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 06:53, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Morbidthoughts The category "American people of Native American descent" for this article cannot stand. That's just insulting to Native Americans. Please remove it. If you do not, we go to ARBCOM. When it comes to this level of racism, there really has to be a line drawn in the sand. This is not okay. This is an intolerable level of distortion of Native American identity. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 07:37, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Antwort
I am sympathetic to the impact this can cause to the Native communities but Wikipedia is a reflection of what reliable sources explicitly say. Any introduction of self-identification into the article text or category is original research without explicit support from independent RS. Morbidthoughts (talk) 08:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Antwort
I don't really feel strongly about this because categories are really only of interest to other editors not readers. However I don't think the concept that someone can have Native American ancestry without identifying as Native American is racist or insulting to Native Americans. As the category description states, it is intended for "Americans who have proof of Native American ancestry but are not members of any Native American tribes". If there's an issue with this system of categorisation as a whole then take it to WP:CfD. It seems like a double standard to include Oprah in Category:American people of Kpelle descent but in a Native American descent category, given both are derived from the same DNA test. Threats of taking people to ARBCOM for a single revert are also unhelpful and unnecessary. ITBF💬08:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
level-4 vital article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
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Erledigt Thank you Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 18:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Liu1126 (talk) 20:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC)