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STEVE EARLE

Hi. I don't have time at the moment to make corrections, but wanted to let you know that you have made some mistakes in your edits of the article on Steve Earle. (For instance, he was only in jail about two months.) You rely heavily on a brief CMT web bio, when previous authors had relied on extensive published biographies by St.John and McGee, though they were not always cited well. This is a problem I see often on Wikipedia: references too often are satisfied by web sources, while better researched books are not considered. I will work on it, but do try to go beyond a sketchy web bio if you are going to make such wholesale changes, or simply put a "reference needed" tag. 99.43.32.160 (talk) 18:34, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Friendly Feedback

		The Original Barnstar
		I hereby award The Original Barnstar to Keithbob for particularly fine and diligent editing at the Stock market bottom article. Keep up the good work. :) — neuro(talk) 12:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

		Civility Award
		Thanks for your civility in our discussion of the John Mayer article.Esprit15d • talk • contribs 20:12, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

		The Good Friend Award
		The Good Friend Award is greatly and enormously appreciated, but only accepted if it is shared, because it is people like you who are the driving force behind a constructive wikipedia! :) Robster1983 (talk) 16:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

John Butler and, indeed, wikipedia is better now. Thank you for your calm, mature and professional approach to a possibly difficult situation. I hope we can collaborate on another article one day.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 19:18, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

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Yes, it was a great (logical, needed) change; I'm glad you were there w/ experience in this type thing to do correctly, etc. (I didn't have confidence yet for so major a change.) With lots of eyes on the Trump article, and no one protesting, it seems logic/reasonability is universal? Yet few will act!? Appreciatively, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 15:47, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Your Arbitration evidence is too long

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Fixed -- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:18, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

The Civil Wars

Keith, Sensibility Music is The Civil Wars' management company and label. You have significantly changed the band's Wikipedia page, and removed information and citations we've specifically included. Can you please restore this information and the format in which it was written? Thank you, Nate Yetton sensibility music — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sensibilitymusic (talk • contribs) 21:24, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'll respond on your User Talk page. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 21:58, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

John Paul White bio

Yes, I agree that photo is not appropriate. The trouble is, bad as it is, it was the only one I could find which was free to use on Wikipedia. Trilobitealive (talk) 02:58, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Trilobitealive, I know you are doing the best with what you have and your work is appreciated. I'm OK with leaving the photo for now. We just have to be careful to make sure the content for JPW is about him and not about TCW which is whole other article (as you know) :-) Thanks for your help!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Bridgewater Associates needs cleanup

After the December GA review, this article was tagged with a host of verifiability problems. See the article's talk page for my note: in 7 days I'll revisit the article. If the tags haven't been addressed, I'll do a reassessment, which could mean the loss of GA status. You're the main contributor, so I thought I should let you know. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 13:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that so quickly! Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 13:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Thank for all your contributions to the process!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 13:48, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Derek Trucks

Just a note to voice my appreciation for the work you did cleaning up the article on Derek Trucks. He is increasingly becoming a more commercially successful and visible musician. Thanks. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 13:09, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

You are welcome, its good to be recognized :-)-- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Question/Help

Hey, I have worked with you before on the risk parity article as well as financial risk. However, it seems I am having issues with User:Brianmarc on the Downside risk page (and less so on Sortino ratio). I have tried to contact this user on his talk page to try to work together on improving the article, but it seems he is not willing to be cooperative and, in my view, is merely blanking out entire parts of pages (that are cited) without giving reason. I'm not sure how to go forward with this, and was hoping for your help in figuring out what to do. Thank you. Zfeinst (talk) 04:41, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Zfeinst, I can't come to the article and help you as that would be considered the 'canvassing' a friendly editor (by you) to come and be on your side in a dispute. This kind of stacking of the deck is not permitted on Wikipedia. I'm not saying that you were asking me to do that, just letting you know about that rule. However, I can look at the edit history(s) and advise you on how to respond or proceed with an editor who is being disruptive etc. So let me look at the edits and then I'll respond further.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:48, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm just trying to learn the rules/procedures for dealing with a disruptive/uncivil editor. I appreciate your help. In regards to the situation I mentioned, an admin appears to have intervened already to tell that user to be more civil. But, for future reference, would you mind telling me the procedure that I should do if such a thing happens again? Thank you. Zfeinst (talk) 16:54, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Good. I'm glad an Admin has stepped in. Brianmarc is a rather inexperienced user and may not be aware that Wikipedia has strict policies on WP:CIVILITY and WP:NPA (No Personal Attacks). I haven't looked at all his edits but his edit summaries that say: "keep getting ambushed bt some ignorant wannabe!" and "Fuck you, cocksucket" are not acceptable and if repeated, after a warning from an Admin, could result in a temporary block of the user account. There are various kinds of dispute resolution which are outlined at WP:DISPUTE. There are two basic kinds of disputes: content and behavior. If he continues to be incivil and make personal attacks (behavior) then I would post a note on the talk page of the Admin who has intervened and show him the diffs sample diff here. The Admin will take care of the behavior. If he continues to remove large quantities of content, especially sourced content, like he has here [1] and leaves the edit summary blank and doesn't respond to your requests for an explanation on the talk page; then you could take the matter to the WP:DRN which is a dispute resolution noticeboard for non-specific content issues. Be sure to notify Brianmarc if you open a discussion at DRN so he can participate. Dispute resolution is a complicated, time consuming and painstaking process, but it will give you results if you stick with it. If you need further assistance now or in the future, please feel free to contact me. Wikipedia needs more sincere, civil, collaborative editors like you to help us improve the encyclopedia. So be patient and keep the faith. Cheers! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:26, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I just saw today's post by Tiderolls [2] which outlines all of Brianmarc's faulty editing. Tideroll's has a history with this editor and is aware of the problems. So if issues (of any kind) continue, just go to Tideroll's talk page for advice. He will help you. Good Luck!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:00, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Great, thank you for your help. I really appreciate it. Zfeinst (talk) 18:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

World Factoring Yearbook

I'm leaving this message as you're listed as a current participant of WikiProject Business. I was informed yesterday that the current World Factoring Yearbook (circa £150) is now free for download as an ebook. It's a matter of filling out this form. I'm not sure if you'll find this useful as a reliable source, but I thought I should let you know that it's freely available online. I apologise in advance if this doesn't interest you! All the best, The Cavalry (Message me) 14:56, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for this. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:27, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Eloquence

I have no knowledge of the/your conflict W/ Will Beback. I know that he is a quality editor and has been a mentor to me when asked. And. from your parting words to him at his talk and at ANI, I glean that you likewise are a forthright editor. Your words were eloquent and insightful and they fit situations in my editing life. If I may, I ask that I can "borrow them" (with a bit of rephrasing and good old WP editing) to situations where they may shed the light of awareness. Thanking you in advance. ```Buster Seven Talk 20:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Buster, I think I have seen you on the Sarah Palin talk page a time or two. Thank you for your compliment and yes you may take any of my words and make them your own in your own future posts. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I thought it was you!....§:~). I still visit Sarah to reminisce. Your reminder that we are people behind our User masks is timely. ```Buster Seven Talk 21:03, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of Transcendence: Healing and Transformation Through Transcendental Meditation for deletion

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That's fine. Let's see what the uninvolved editors in the community have to say about it.I'm sure they will make a fair assessment.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 03:53, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks!

Thank you for your kindness with the barnstar! We WikiFairy editors are routinely unnoticed most of the time. Those virtual little trinkets seem so small to most people, but on our worst days, seeing these little benchmarks make a real difference! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 00:16, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

You are welcome my friend.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 01:47, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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Horizon Organic

I view the "Controversy" heading as more appropriate, given the section contents. Its commonly used on WP, as is "Criticism;" in fact, the Dean Foods page has a controversy section with common content.--E8 (talk) 17:06, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ed, thanks for your post. Why don't we continue the discussion on the article talk page?-- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Pattie Boyd

Talk page.--andreasegde (talk) 09:07, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

OK, I have responded there. Thank you for the notification.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:29, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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Kara Young

Someone named Fasttimes68 keeps getting into editing wars, now it seems with this former model's page. Her husband only "claims" to be a billionaire, it was never reported by a third party source that is actually is. I suggest this matter with this editing person be stopped. He seems to like arguing with other editors regarding models quite often on here. JohnJaySee (talk) 13:04, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I've made comments on the talk page. I think there is room for improvement on both sides of this fence. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 21:42, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Nice job

Very nice edits on Kara Young. Thank you. Just an FYI, I'm going to follow your edits from time to time to observe how you work. Not stalking, just learning. Fasttimes68 (talk) 21:40, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliments on the editing. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 21:43, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Nice job, yes. In viewing the article on Young, the husband's part is not necessary in an article about a model who is notable for her own career, not his. Perhaps the debatable sentence about him should be removed for just that reason alone and it will also avoid further edit warring. 71.183.42.144 (talk) 13:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the compliments. Regarding the text on the husband. That is something that has been discussed on the talk page and if you have input, that would be the place to express it. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:55, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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Left a response

A response to your question at Shawn Colvin's article. xoxox.. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 10:32, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Martin Hosking

Appreciate your editing of Martin Hosking's BLP and your strong commitment to policy around BLPs. The latest reversion may have removed some of your edits. They were not in my mind controversial so feel free to reinsert (sorry about any additional work). Or to draw (or ignore) any of the factual information inserted in the talk page. Regards 220.245.205.26 (talk) 21:55, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Am looking forward to contributing to WP under my brand new memership!. You have modeled for me excellent interaction and selfless contribution towards improving WP and how in turn this has taken a burden off me personally. I am very comfortable with the facts of RB and of what I have tried to do. Incidentally we share a fondness for Eckhart Tolle and a number of other related matters. I will contribute in the Talk Space as needed on both REDBUBBLE and my BLP and will do so in the third person. I don't do this to misrepresent my connection but just so my contributions are given no more (and no less weight than others). I will declare on my user page my conflict of interest in line with WP:COI but will take it as read in relation to REDBUBBLE and the BLP Martin Hosking so I don't need to declare it each time.XcommR (talk) 00:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

fyi. I have requested a minor edit to the BLP for accuracy. Also that the article be edited back as it is now split. At some stage would like the Talk Space cleaned up as it contains some malicious material and I understand the wp:BLP policies also apply in talk space. No urgency. Appreciate all your professionalism. XcommR (talk) 12:20, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Bored? Haaha..

Did I ever give you one of these invitations? Either way, click and scroll down on the page connected with the little babel box. When I get bored, I either check out the various lists of things to do there. Also, I have kept a list of maybe 5 or 6 articles whose notability is in question. My problem is that I don't like to address those (potentially confrontational) issues, so if you are willing, let me know! *Also, I am truly computer illiterate with the exception of using email, and some Wikipedia and Commons. This especially applies to removing watermarks and frames for the photos I've uploaded. Would you be willing to do any of that stuff? There are a slew of photos in Commons that should be placed in a Category of their own, but I'm ignorant as far as creating categories there properly; and many need more work, too, each really deserves it there, but I can provide a list of them for you as well. Name yer poison! Matter of fact, if you don't like these options, let me know, and I'll have a new list for you!

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DYK nomination

I nominated an article that you started for DYK at Template:Did you know nominations/RedBubble. SL93 (talk) 02:55, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I've left a comment there.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 21:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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It seems its up for speedy deletion, so maybe this little point doesn't matter so much now.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 02:25, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

McKinsey talk page

Just threw up some comments on the McKinsey talk page -- look forward to working together on this! My[2011] (talk) | 21:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by My2011 (talk • contribs)

Do you want to put office locations on talk page? just to save it somewhere? I feel bad for the guy. My[2011] (talk) | 00:42, 20 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by My2011 (talk • contribs)

I moved them to another article per the talk page. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:26, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Kiethbob. Just wanted to give you a friendly ping that My2011 and I are waiting for your comments on the Galleon Scandal on the McKinsey & Co Talk page if you're still interested. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 16:04, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I've left a comment there.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 02:09, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Kiethbob. I went ahead and did my best to create an updated Galleon scandal section based on My2011's feedback on the McKinsey & Co Talk page. Really appreciate all your help and patience. With so much complex and controversial content, it's unlikely I'd be able to improve the article without so much participation from the community. My hope is that if the section is basically ok, we can move to article-space and there can be bold edits from there. I should have updates on the History/Org sections by next week. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 20:56, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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Redbubble

Keithbob Inevitably some of the attention which had been focused on Martin Hosking has shifted over to the page RedBubble with some inappropriate editing. I have left a comment in the talk section but have not attempted to re-edit. Will leave it with you but will keep a watch out and voice opinion as needed. XcommR (talk) 22:55, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

OK thanks.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 02:25, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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Don't yet

Hi, I saw your comment about unsourced Derek Trucks edits. I am sick right now, but before you remove more and more from that article, please wait till I'm feeling alright, OK? I did a lot of work on it, both bad and good, and a couple years ago, asked another editor to help clean it up, and the more that is yanked around without knowing where those references actually are could leave the whole biography in two sentences really soon if it continues. I try to avoid WP:OR, but a photographer friend of mine is Derek's Dad's best friend.. so please wait. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 15:48, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, the post you refer to is from 3 months ago and I"ve already made lots of edit since then. However, I have not touched the article since Feb 6th. So no worries, take your time, get well, and work on it when you are feeling better. I'm working on other things. Get well soon.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

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Ok I've responded on the talk page. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 02:26, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of RedBubble for deletion

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Kevin Ou

In this series of edits, you left a number of richly deserved warning templates at the top of Kevin Ou. I've removed a lot of junk from that article, but the closer I look at what remains the more dubious (or trivial) it seems. An AfD is not unimaginable. I'm sure I could continue cutting junk, but I'm pausing now, because there are more pressing demands on my limited time than this photographer. However, you'd be most welcome to wield your own editorial machete. -- Hoary (talk) 00:47, 5 May 2012 (UTC) OK, will do. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:10, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

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History of TM

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Re: Kara Anastasio

Apologies for the length, this kind of got away from me.

As this isn't primarily about the article subject anymore, I'm responding here. Wikipedia:Proposed deletions are fine, which is what you did. Anyone may remove them, normally by showing that something is not a hoax, including or providing references here, demonstrating notability, or indicating that it would need a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion example. I did not claim that she is notable, but removed the Prod, suggesting that the article be redirected to United States House of Representatives elections, 2004#Ohio (note that #Ohio goes to the corresponding section), since United States House of Representatives elections in Ohio, 2004&redirect=no (the corresponding state sub-article doesn't exist, and currently redirects back there). If deleted, search results would land readers at a page similar to this, while no longer having her article there. Indeed Ohio's 7th congressional district#Election results might be an even better anchor, as showing both attempts simultaneously. First elections rarely need to state 'unsuccessful, they ran again here 2 years later', but subsequent elections often mention 'previously unsuccessful, ran again'. Having identified that she was an unsuccessful candidate but still the nominee and a plausible search term, an attempted redirect should be the first step. Proposing deletion leaves a void, which prompts recreation if left redlinked elsewhere. If the redirect stays, fine; if reverted, the article can be taken to AfD. After your post at article talk & my talk, I initially thought I'd removed an AfD template (a no-no), and was relieved to discover we were just miscommunicating. You may now either redirect it or take it to AfD, where redirect will be the likely result unless notability is established. Questions? Dru of Id (talk) 19:23, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey Dru, thanks for this in depth explanation. So the process is to first propose deletion with a PROD. Then if no-one fixes the issue its taken to AfD for discussion (unless it needs a Speedy, which is another topic we wont' get into). Is that correct? But what if someone removes the PROD tag, like you did? I can still take it to AfD for discussion? That is what I wanted in teh first place. In future can I go direct to that step? Also I'm still not clear on why you removed the tag as you did not solve the notability problem. I guess you are saying you did it because a deletion would take the search to a list page and you think it should be redirected. What I think should be done is that it should be deleted and the search term redirected to either the Ohio election page (cited above) or the John Hagelin/Personal section where we could include a one sentence description of her career. Thoughts? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I removed the Prod because I think a Redirect is the best outcome, and the most likely outcome (I think it best to assist in getting readers to content, and less likely to tempt recreation). You could just have redirected it, citing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes#Politicians, since there's actually coverage. You Prod'ed it (which was fine, but is supposed to meet the 'no editor would object' guideline, and there is coverage); I've removed the Prod, which cannot be re-applied. The choices are now redirect, or AfD, which will likely have the same result, but gives the opportunity for establishing notability (and drama) but is enforceable, and the result can be locked if repeatably bothered with. While you can go directly to AfD with many articles, editors would normally expect the process which takes the path of least resistance, or they'll complain that adequate prior steps haven't been taken or you're wasting their time, although less likely with your first. Dru of Id (talk) 19:50, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

So is it OK to just redirect now without goig to AfD? If we redirect now, without going to AfD, what will happen to the current page content? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:12, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's ok to redirect it now, although it could be reverted by any editor at any time; watchlist it if you want. The current content remains in the article history; if it were problematic, it could be deleted, recreated, and redirected, or specific edits and their summaries Wikipedia:Revision deletion. Dru of Id (talk) 20:27, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, you may proceed as you see fit, but I'm going to just think about these options for now. Thanks for walking me through this.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 17:03, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

McKinsey & Co

Hi Keithbob, I wanted to let you know I've provided a dump of historical content, responses and other suggestions on the McKinsey & Company Talk page. There's no rush or anything, but if you do have time your feedback would be appreciated as always. User:King4057 19:07, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll put it on my list. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Keithbob. I just wanted to poke you about the request for feedback on the McKinsey & Company history section from a couple weeks ago and wanted to see if you got a chance to look at it. McKinsey's reputation is a complex animal, so I tried a "stick to the facts" approach before we represent all majority and minority viewpoints later on in a Reputation section. User:King4057 17:47, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

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Criteria issues

Hey- I believe the associated acts as I understand it, are those groups which the person in question was a member at some point. Lately, I've seen articles with a litany of every musician who ever even jammed with another person! Eric Clapton, for example, has played with damn near every amazing musician alive. How can they all fit in an infobox? But, if Clapton was a member of a band, such as The Yardbirds, or John Mayall's band, then they qualify as associated acts. If one disagrees with my assessment, then I defy them to figure out what to put as associated acts for session musicians' biographies like the ones for multi-instrumentalist David Lindley, or Waddy Wachtel, both of whom have played with damn near all the greats across genres. However, now that I think about it- back to Eric Clapton, if it is unavoidable to list all the people, or past members, you can always create a little fold thing, where someone must click to see the full list. There's my best guess. Hope this helps. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 03:48, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Here's the official article for the infobox criteria. Hopefully, this works: Template:Infobox musical artist#For articles about individuals. I feel proud that I even came close in my own guesswork! For information about doing anything with album or song pages, I'd ask the following users-- User:Discographer, User:DISEman, and/or User:Wasted Time R. This is why I keep a little list of people I learn from, or learn with on my Userpage for easy access. They're all good folk. :) --Leahtwosaints (talk) 01:05, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I don't usually work on song or album pages but if I do I'll give them a shout. Gracias, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:37, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Can I send you email?

Are you email friendly, or prefer to limit talk here? I have a bunch of thoughts on our editing, and tend to get really wordy. Let me know! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 01:54, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Courtesy notice

Hi, Keithbob. This is a note to let you know that I indirectly mentioned you at ANI earlier today; the thread is at Wikipedia:ANI#User:Andreasegde is disrupting a discussion and straw poll @ the Beatles talk page. I cited your interaction with Andreasegde as an example of his behaviour but did not mention you by name. I just thought it might be best to let you know. -- Dianna (talk) 05:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:23, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

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McKinsey History

Hi Keith. Just wanted to let you know My2011 and I have been working on the draft history section of the McKinsey & Company article we started in May. I just posted an update on his Talk page asking if it was ready for article-space.

You are probably a more senior editor than either of us and I thought you might want to chime in and take a look. I was also poking a bit on the Office Locations section we discussed in May that kind of slipped through the cracks and never got implemented.

Finally, if you're interested, we could use your experience for the upcoming Organization section. There are some unsourced criticisms near the end of that section. Asking to remove content isn't really my bread and butter and I won't declare that no sources exist (lest I get proven wrong). Maybe you could lend some perspective on the best approach? User:King4057 (EthicalWiki) 16:36, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't have a lot of time to spend on it, but I've made some edits to the draft from a content perspective.

I commented that you could go ahead and post the office locations section

First step would be to tag the unsourced text with like this: and then after a reasonable amount of time, if no sources are produced it could be removed. Putting a note on the talk page would also be helpful.

I also think you shouldn't have to chase people to get them to approve changes or additions to the article. You can notify other editors on the article talk or their user talk pages. But WP:COI does not say that you cannot edit or add content.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:41, 28 July 2012 (UTC)