Talk:Big Brother (Australian TV series) season 6

Archives
1: May 8-June 20 2006 2: June-July 2006

Fair use images

I'm not sure if we can claim fair use on the top four images... what use do they have, what do they tell the reader? -- 9cds^(talk) 10:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The first one shows how the voting system works, the next two are promo caps showing Ten calling their world first a world first, and the fourth one is the logo. What was it you said, "proof, not facts"? --JD[^talk|_email] 10:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The first one doesn't show us anything at all, there is already a logo in the infobox. -- 9cds^(talk) 10:36, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The first picture shows how the public can vote to save and evict. And the picture in the infobox isn't the series logo; it's only the programme logo. --JD[^talk|_email] 11:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

According to policy, "[A] reviewer may fairly cite largely from the original work, if his design be really and truly to use the passages for the purposes of fair and reasonable criticism. On the other hand, it is as clear, that if he thus cites the most important parts of the work, with a view, not to criticise, but to supersede the use of the original work, and substitute the review for it, such a use will be deemed in law a piracy... In short, we must often... look to the nature and objects of the selections made, the quantity and value of the materials used, and the degree in which the use may prejudice the sale, or diminish the profits, or supersede the objects, of the original work." It appears to me then that since this entire article is filled with pictures that supersede the use of the original work, most if not all of them should be removed. Ste4k 09:00, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Ashley and John

From the BB website

Ashley and John escorted from House

Big Brother Housemates Ashley and John were escorted from the House this afternoon following a breach of the rules. The producers Endemol Southern Star and Network Ten deemed their actions were grounds for their removal from the show. The producers will not be commenting any further on this serious matter.

In a joint statement made shortly after they left the House, Ashley and John said: "We had a great time in the house. It is unfortunate it had to end this way, but Big Brother has rules and regulations and we broke them.

“We are all very close in the house and we would never do anything to offend our fellow housemates."

Grey Shadow 08:40, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I've edited the information and updated their eviction dates. Someone could start a subsection about what's happening.

Jockmonkey 09:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

BigBrother has posted on the official BB forum that users are not to comment on John and Ashley's removal due to legal reasons. What posts are currently there, are being deleted by the mods. Grey Shadow 09:30, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Can someone change the legend to show that they were removed and maybe use a different colour for that? --60.227.230.22 12:17, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, I don't think it needs to be changed. Technically they were removed, but they were still evicted. --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 12:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I have now shown them in red to highlight the distinction --60.227.230.22 22:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

A bit too bright, mate. --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 22:11, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

You're right - I think I have screwed this up - I am going to change it to something else but I am hoping someone who knows what they are doing will make it look a bit better. I won't make any more changes after that as it is just messing things around.

--60.227.230.22 22:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I have really messed this up - can we PLEASE have something to show that these two were removed as this is a major event and there is talk that the whole show might be stopped because of it. Can someone who knows how to work this make something that looks OK? Apologies to everyone for the inconvenience.

--60.227.230.22 22:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

It looks good actually. Nice colour. It just needs to be added to the legend, preferably on a separate line. I will have a go at that in a while if you don't manage to do it. --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 22:39, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Umm... no. Changes to the infobox affect many pages, so should not be made to satisfy one page. To show that housemates have been removed, I suggest putting: (Removed) after the exit date, as used in other articles. -- 9cds^(talk) 23:59, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

"Sexual assault"

We should be careful what we say here. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. So please put alleged before any accusations of sexual assault. -- 9cds^(talk) 00:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

But it's not alleged, it's... guilty..? --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 00:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Has it been proven in a court of law? -- 9cds^(talk) 00:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

It's on a bloody camera. At least one, of 39, to be exact. And picked up by as many as 84 microphones, is it? --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 00:51, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

We'll leave that to the courts to decide. -- 9cds^(talk) 00:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

No, we'll leave it to the people that said it was sexual assault. The people being Kris Noble, the voice of Big Brother, and his many minions. --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 00:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

What happened (turkey-slapping, or whatever you want to call it) would be an indecent assault, not a sexual assault. It is indeed 'alleged' or 'apparent' or something like that, as opposed to proven in front of a jury. Big Brother did remove John and Ashley so the show has obviously made some findings of fact against them. - Richardcavell 06:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Fines

How about moving the Fines section to the main BB AU article, and linking to it from this one? It would help for BB05 as well. I was thinking about putting it in a table, with tick boxes to show which fines were applicable and in which season. Unless the fines haven't changed since last year. --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 01:06, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Australian gambling odds

What does "$2.00 odds" mean? Morwen - Talk 11:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Same as "Even money" or 1/1. See Fixed-odds_gambling#Decimal_odds. -- Barrylb 13:34, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Choronology

I've started up a consensus building for chronology on the Wikiproject talk page. -- 9cds^(talk) 07:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Intruders

May I suggest you make the intrudors yellow, and mark (removed) next to the removed housemates, per precidents? I was bold and did this, but JD_UK reverted. -- 9cds^(talk) 18:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

It was incorrect. Why bring this to the article when you could have asked me in the IRC channel? And why make such a big deal out of it? You were wrong about something, so I reverted it. --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 18:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Why is it incorrect? -- 9cds^(talk) 19:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The housemates you marked as Intruders aren't even in the house. --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 19:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The infobox

Because of the many arguments that have occured because of the infobox, I have suggested many times that a separate one be used for the Big Brother Australia articles, so that it can be adapted for the Australia articles, and so that any major changes relevant to the series can be made without facing conflicts from editors of the other countries' Big Brother series. I've been advised to ask about this here before going ahead and just doing it. --JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 20:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

This article needs cleaning up in two ways:

• It needs sourcing - Wikipedia is about sourced information, not facts.
• The chronology is far too long.

-- 9cds^(talk) 10:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)