Talk:Second City Television

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"As one chronicler has noted, the TV station concept gave the show the ability to parody virtually any TV genre, as well as advertising."

Is this worth noting? I wouldn't say this "ability to parody any TV genre" sets it apart in any way. SNL has the exact same ability.

Yes, but in a qualitatively different way. SNL is a "loose premise." They throw out sketches of any type and on any subject. SCTV is a tight premise -- they _are_ a TV show, and as a result, their TV and genre parodies fit into a broader framework. It's the difference between parodying a television show, and parodying a television _station,_ which then leads to parodying all of television. Eric Burns

Groundskeeper Willy

You do realize that the article is wrong, correct?

"According to The Simpsons’ original producer, Al Jean, the writers were in favour of a “yumpin’, yiminy” type (drawing inspiration perhaps from the Swedish chef in The Muppets). “But then someone thought it would be funnier if he was Scottish."

Not true. Listen to the DVD Commentary for Principal Charming. In it, the shows producers - INCLUDING Al Jean - say that he was just written as a generic angry janitor and Dan Castellaneta used multiple voices (Scottish, Swedish, Spanish, etc) and they simply thought the Scottish voice fit better. And, not once in the cited article does it say that Castellaneta based Willy on him. That phrase is pure speculation and we can't add every single minor influence SCTV has potentially had. And, both Dave Thomas and Dan Castellaneta did the commentary for Homer Vs. The Eighteenth Ammendment - an episode that contains Willy - and not once is Angus Crock mentioned. -- Scorpion0422 01:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply


Nowhere in the information that you keep reverting is the claim made that the writers or creators of the Simpsons based the character Willie on this skit. The claim is that Castellaneta used the SCTV character as an inspiration for the way he portrays Willie. This is sourced to an interwiew with Castellaneta himself. Just because this is not mentioned by Castellaneta in the commentary of 1 episode on DVD does not make it not true. Do you have a source that contradicts this or have you just not heard this before and don't believe it?L0b0t 23:36, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Antwort
Alright fine. You go around deleting "useless" trivia out of random articles that you know nothing about, and yet you support this random (and false) piece of trivia that really doesn't matter. -- Scorpion0422 23:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
This is sourced to Castellaneta himself. What about this is false? L0b0t 00:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
No it doesn't. It just has an unsourced quote. Besides, the article is wrong and misquotes in several places, thus making it a bad source. -- Scorpion0422 00:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply