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Edit summaries are your friend
While I don't disagree with this edit (the material you removed was largely promotional), such a large edit (you removed over 40% of the article content!) needs an edit summary so other users can understand your reasoning. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:13, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. The article was a bit of a mess. It is certainly shorter, but also better now. Polygnotus (talk) 19:58, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
September 2022
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Achnabat. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 20:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
@Dl2000: I think you got the wrong guy. ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Yeetfakename34567 Polygnotus (talk) 20:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Dl2000: While this edit by Polygnotus featured a somewhat humorous edit summary, the edit itself was valid, removing an unsourced bit of information about the town having been founded by the Illuminati, and correcting the spelling of the word crofting. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:28, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
According to Google Maps and Google Streetview Achnabat consists of a house, a farm building, and some sheep. It is beautiful, and it would be the perfect home for a secret society (if they all fit in a single house). Better still, it is very very close to Loch Ness and its monster. But considering the vandal also claimed that a tiny village in Poland was founded by the "illuminate" (sic) I think it is reasonable to remove those claims until reliable sources have been provided. ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rak%C3%B3wiec&diff=prev&oldid=867137355 Polygnotus (talk) 20:56, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough - the removal of unref claims and wording error was valid. The edit summary threw me off, though. Dl2000 (talk) 21:00, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Ajmer
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Ajmer rape case, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. CodeTalker (talk) 16:36, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please ignore, I now see the source you mentioned on the talk page. CodeTalker (talk) 16:38, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Draftification
Hello, Polygnotus,
I was wondering why you moved Accelerated experiential dynamic psychotherapy to Draft space. It was not an appropriate article to move to Draft space so I don't think you understand the rules surrounding what articles are draftified and which ones are not. Please do not move any more articles to Draft space until you are more clear on the guidelines of how this is supposed to be done. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 08:57, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
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Hi Polygnotus! Hope you are having a good day and thank you for wading through pages in userspace that are not appropriate to be on wikipedia. I came across a few such pages you had used the WP:PROD process on that are in userspace; however, WP:PROD can only be used on articles. If something is in userspace, then it can either be deleted via WP:CSD criteria such as WP:U5: Not a webhost, WP:G3: Blantant hoax/vandalism, WP:G10: Attack page, WP:G11: Purely promotional page or others (all of which are listed at WP:CSD). You might want to consider using WP:Twinkle to help with this, as it allows you to pick CSD categories from a tool dropdown. Have a great rest of your day. Cheers! TartarTorte 15:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Good point; I should've checked. Have a nice day, Polygnotus (talk) 15:37, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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Editsummaries and the Preview button
Please do us a favor and "preview" your changes so you don't end up make a dozen edits in a row to a page like Wikipedia talk:Verifiability. Doing what you've done is asking for an edit conflict. And, as was mentioned to you above, please use edit summaries for each and every edit you make. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Edit summaries are not required. Some people love them; others not so much. Previewing changes is difficult on my phone. Polygnotus (talk) 14:39, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- I acknowledge both of your points. Still, Wikipedia is a collaborative project. You have not violated any policies or guidelines but you could help out your fellow editors. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:33, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- This may be a stupid question but why are editsummaries useful to you? I've seen people use an intentionally misleading editsummary in the past so I personally don't trust editsummaries. I changed the section header to something less alarming; hope you don't mind. Polygnotus (talk) 17:18, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- It would probably be easy to write a script that checks what kind of edit I make and fills in the editsummary for me. E.g. if I edit an article and only change 1 character it was probably a typo. And if an edit is on a talkpage it was probably my 2 cents in a discussion. I can't really promise to use editsummaries consistently because I rarely see a reason to use them. If that means that more people check the actual edit to see what I am doing then that is a good thing imho. Polygnotus (talk) 17:32, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Edit summaries are part of my countervandalism efforts. I am not familiar with you as an editor, so I have less inclination to trust what you contribute. At the same time, if you are being useful I would prefer not to waste time checking up on you when there are others to chase down. Edit summaries are just a good practice as a demonstration of collaboration and everyone should be north of 90% usage. There is already a setting in your preferences menu to have the interface warn you if you leave off an edit summary. I appreciate what help you can give us in this regard. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:53, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- How do you look for vandalism? What method/tools do you use? Polygnotus (talk) 21:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- When I was actively searching for vandalism I used User:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool. Anymore I just revert what I notice in my watchlist. Twinkle is my go-to tool for that. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:31, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- That is an 18 year old script. Modern anti-vandalism tools are far more advanced and use stuff like ORES to separate the wheat from the chaff. Me using editsummaries won't help or hinder with anti-vandalism efforts. Polygnotus (talk) 03:04, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- When I was actively searching for vandalism I used User:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool. Anymore I just revert what I notice in my watchlist. Twinkle is my go-to tool for that. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:31, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- How do you look for vandalism? What method/tools do you use? Polygnotus (talk) 21:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Edit summaries are part of my countervandalism efforts. I am not familiar with you as an editor, so I have less inclination to trust what you contribute. At the same time, if you are being useful I would prefer not to waste time checking up on you when there are others to chase down. Edit summaries are just a good practice as a demonstration of collaboration and everyone should be north of 90% usage. There is already a setting in your preferences menu to have the interface warn you if you leave off an edit summary. I appreciate what help you can give us in this regard. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:53, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- I acknowledge both of your points. Still, Wikipedia is a collaborative project. You have not violated any policies or guidelines but you could help out your fellow editors. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:33, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Sources in Hebrew
I saw your comment in which you tagged me. It's great that you've managed to find the sources, if you need something in future I'd be happy to help. Alaexis¿question? 21:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Alaexis: Thank you! I haven't found Conceiving Agency: Reproductive Authority among Haredi Women by Michal S. Raucher yet, so I may have to buy it (or ask the author for a copy). Polygnotus (talk) 22:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have access to it either unfortunately. Alaexis¿question? 22:26, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Grave with the Hands
On 13 April 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Grave with the Hands, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Grave with the Hands (pictured) commemorates a married couple, divided by society and religion, clasping hands between cemeteries after death? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grave with the Hands. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Grave with the Hands), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Hook update | ||
Your hook reached 15,818 views (1,318.2 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of April 2024 – nice work! |
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Bloated Infoboxes
Well, that appeal and that edit certainly didn't have much effect. I'm clueless. Kind regards, Grueslayer 18:15, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's life sometimes. Polygnotus (talk) 01:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
April 2024
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edits to User talk:Ian (Wiki Ed), please use the preview button before you save your edit; this helps you find any errors you have made and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history, as well as helping prevent edit conflicts. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the page will look like without actually saving it.
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- @Chris troutman: I shouldn't have bought a cheap phone. Try following this advice on an old smartphone (with an old brain). I would if I could. Polygnotus (talk) 01:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Collapsing content of other editors when you are involved
The content that you collapsed in this edit at User talk:Ian (Wiki Ed)#Back again contained comments by other editors as well as by yourself. I consider it poor form to carry out such a collapse when you are involved in the discussion, especially if the result appears to give your opinions more weight or deemphasize other views. If it deserved to be collapsed, someone uninvolved in the discussion (or the TP owner, involved or not) should be the one to carry it out. For general principles covering such actions, please see WP:TPO, WP:OWNTALK, WP:COLLAPSENO, and WP:REDACT. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 06:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Mathglot: Yeah but like I explained, I don't really have another option. I don't want to rewrite the conversation into a form that can be placed on ENB because that would waste yet more of my time. Especially since one of the problems is that I feel that a bunch of my time is being wasted and undervalued. And I can't have the ENB people be distracted by a giant metadiscussion; I want to respect their time. Polygnotus (talk) 06:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
CIVIL behavior is policy
This is a warning concerning your harrassing behavior towards editor User:Ian (Wiki Ed) at his Talk page (here, and elsewhere). At Wikipedia, WP:CIVILITY is policy, and governs the behavior of users interacting with each other. If you look at the number one item in the nutshell box at the top of the WP:CIVIL policy page or the lead paragraph, you will see that they both make the same point: editors should always treat each other with consideration and respect. Your behavior at User talk:Ian (Wiki Ed) repeatedly failed to observe this policy, and failed miserably.
I am aware that your native language is not English, and because of my immense respect for anyone editing in another language and dealing with intercultural issues, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and the maximum possible latitude (e.g., here), including the assumption that my own cultural biases colored my view of your behavior. At first I assumed that your scolding Ian on his page and calling him "rude" for not responding immediately to your numerous questions (numbered up to 17, apparently based on some earlier question list) were some kind of cultural miscue. I no longer think so. Your repeated rebukes of "rudeness" are uncalled for, and are a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Your gall in calling out a consistently polite user as rude and impolite (diff1, diff2, diff3), your insistence on having a response to your numerous and repeated questions and your passive aggressiveness (diff4), and your tone deaf obliviousness about your own rude behavior and arrogance (diff5) have no place at Wikipedia.
Your behavior at Ian's page is not okay, it is WP:DISRUPTIVE of good order and smooth functioning of Wikipedia, and it is a violation of core behavioral policy as listed under the Five pillars of Wikipedia. I am here to tell you that if you repeat this pattern of behavior you may be subject to sanctions, including suspension of your editing privileges. Mathglot (talk) 18:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Falsely accusing someone is not allowed. Stirring up shit when both parties have moved on is not a good strategy. Both you and Ian have been uncivil to me. What to you is rude is clearly not rude to me and vice versa. Please, in the future, stay off my talkpage. Thank you. Polygnotus (talk)