Talk:Legality of euthanasia
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Maps
editIn the first map, it is said that euthanasia is illegal in France, Spain, and Britain, but in the next map, it is said that passive euthanasia is legal in those areas. Quinnov (talk) 02:06, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Norwegen
editRemoved vandalism. Contrary to what was stated previously, euthinasia remains illegal and punishable in Norway. Added relevant - and current - laws to show the present state of legality. --193.90.163.33 (talk) 09:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Murder
editHas anyone else in the UK watched in horror as their relative is 'terminally sedated' , despite not being 'terminally ill' by any definition, but just because they were over 70, and the NHS Foundation Trust Surgeons had a) a limited budget per head of patient, and b) a short turnaround time' as an indication of their performance? We did in February at the Royal Bournemouth and Christchurch Hospital in Dorset. Your article really doesnt emphasize the word 'consent' at all - without consent it is murder - its already happening in the NHS. No pain, no agitation and not 'terminally ill' - why administer Midazolam (Versed) and Alfentanyl s.c. then? Lapsed into a coma, but refused admission to Intensive Care - does look intentional doesnt' it? -- unsigned
- The article says Euthanasia with or without consent is illegal in the UK. Beyond that, I'm not sure what the article should say, unless there is third-party documentation of unwarranted sedation being a problem in the UK and that this is an argument against a change in the law. -- Beland (talk) 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Murder
editIn the international laws define euthanasia as: "the painless killing of a patient suffering from an incurable disease or in an irreversible coma".
The use of voluntary euthanasia is a contradiction since euthanasia is always without consent while assisted suicide means with the subject's consent. A world of difference. Why people confuse the two is beyond me. Misleading even dishonest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.146.127.128 (talk) 02:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- This is a tad old, so sorry for replying 12 months after it was posted - but generally the distinction is in who does the act. Suicide is when a person brings about their own death, assisted suicide is where they do so, but have help, and euthanasia is where someone else is the direct cause of death. Thus if someone procures and takes a drug with the intention of hastening death, this would be suicide. If they had assistance - the drug was provided to them in full knowledge of its use, they were (in the case of Nitschke) hooked up to a machine which administers the drug, or similar - yet still acted to cause their own death, it is assisted suicide. If, however, they did not administer the drug themselves, then it is euthanasia. With three additional distinctions - if they provided their full informed consent, based on their own free will, it is voluntary euthanasia. If they were incapable of saying yes or no (for example, a new born child, or someone in an irreversible coma), it is non-voluntary euthanasia. And if they don't wish to die, it is either involuntary euthanasia or (depending on who you ask) murder. Consent is in the distinction between voluntary and non-voluntary, rather than suicide and euthanasia. - Bilby (talk) 05:14, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Map needs work
edit{{POV|date=November 2008}}
I think "moving toward legalization" is a biased and future-predicting characterization. It should either be removed from the map or replaced with "attempted legalization" (which might be true for almost any jurisdiction, so probably isn't all that useful). It looks like Texas allows passive but not active euthanasia, but this is apparently also true in Utah and perhaps D.C. and other places. FindLaw has an excellent summary of the relevant laws in each state, which should be used to fill in the U.S. portion of the map. [1] I would urge the use of different colors for states which permit active vs. passive vs. no euthanasia. The "status unknown, assumed illegal" should be replaced with "status unknown", as the assumption is inaccurate. It would be nice if the vast "unknown" areas could be filled in, so that "known" jurisdictions don't stand out even if they have the same laws as their neighbors. One starting place for international info:[2]. The article or image description page need to cite sources for each coloration, for verification purposes. -- Beland (talk) 16:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC) Washington and Montana have legalized it at this point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.82.71 (talk) 03:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
The two maps regarding legality of euthanasia differ - the global map seems outdated. 178.239.74.141 (talk) 13:59, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Vandalismw
editThere's a "boobs" in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.63.8.121 (talk) 15:15, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Map needs change for colombia
editIn Colombia active euthanasia is legal. In april of 2015 Constitutional order the Government to regulate the proceedings of the Euthanasia and the Minister of Health made a decree legalizing euthanasia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.18.82.214 (talk) 22:26, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Additional info
editCan someone add some info regarding refusal of fluid and drink? I mean, does the law permit that, or will doctors try to force feed you??? Force feeding is barbaric and the individual who force feeds a patient, should have his legs broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.154.89.30 (talk) 15:21, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- One's refusal of food and drink is not euthanasia. That would be self-done-deed. I.e. a form of suicide. Please read euthanasia. Jim1138 (talk) 08:27, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- So is refusal of treatment and removing life support. All this is suicide. They are self-done actions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.154.89.30 (talk) 18:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Italien
editEuthanasia (both passive and active) is strictly illegal in Italy. Please modify the map accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.202.181.243 (talk) 05:25, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Kanada
editAccording to sources at Global News and OpenParliament, to name two, bill C-14—An Act to amend the Criminal Code and to make related amendments to other Acts (medical assistance in dying)—is now under full force of law at the federal level, which (so far as I can tell) has also had the effect of making it legal in all provinces and territories. (Or at the very least, no province has declared an intention to continue disallowing it.)
Would a change in the country's color from its current state to one of the blue shades be appropriate at this time? Which shade of blue is proper would have to be researched by me; I'm not sure if the bill legalized active or only passive suicide. Flawedspirit~commonswiki (talk) 23:59, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Vandalism in Netherlands section?
editThis section starts with, "It is illegal to euthanize octopi in all parts of the world since 2001." I'm not sure if that's vandalism, some sort of mistranslation, or a misplaced statement, but it certainly doesn't fit into this article. Will someone knowledgeable about euthanasia please fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.224.217.98 (talk) 05:16, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
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The diagrams on legality of euthanasia need to be changed
editThe diagram showing legality of euthanasia in Europe should be changed for Poland, as passive euthanasia is legal there, according to passive euthanasia's definition as the option not to continue futile treatment. It's pretty much similar to futile medical care, which can be ceased in Poland in a situation, where its continuation gives nothing but prolonged suffering to the patient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.254.157.168 (talk) 19:03, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Since the Europe map is a png file and not an svg file, I don't know how that can be easily edited. Jdee4 (talk) 18:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- The stupid map should have been edited years ago, there is no consistency. The Australian map needs to be changed too because they will allow euthanasia soon.175.103.25.137 (talk) 11:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Maps
editThe world map shows that euthanasia is illegal in the UK while the map of Europe shows that passive euthanasia is legal. Which map is correct?Jonteemil (talk) 14:20, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- I've since updated the world map. Passive euthanasia is legal in the UK. Jdee4 (talk) 17:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
There's also a discrepancy between the Europe and world maps, when it comes to Crimea, which is shown as part of Ukraine on the world map, and as part of Russia on the European map. Perhaps we could have the area striped red/blue, while Crimea is still contested? MrEvers (talk) 00:22, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Australien
editHas victoria introduced euthanasia or are they going to introduce it? 175.103.25.137 (talk) 11:50, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Victoria introduced a bill permitting assisted suicide in certain circumstances about 18 months ago, and it has just now come into effect. They haven't legalised euthanasia (which requires that another person bring'sabout the patient's death) but have legalised assisted suicide (in which another person provides the means for a person to die, but does not administer it). - Bilby (talk) 11:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Right. But the map should be changed then. When exactly did this come into effect, a day ago or a week or? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.103.25.137 (talk) 12:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- The map seems accurate. What needs to be changed? - Bilby (talk) 12:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- The map is black. They should add a colour for assisted suicide.So, my question is when dud Victoria adopt the new law, was it just a few days ago?175.103.25.137 (talk) 12:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- I agree that the map would benefit for a colour in relation to assisted suicide, in fact I said as much some time ago here: [[3]]. In any case I coloured Australia black since USA, which has the same status, was already black. Jdee4 (talk) 12:35, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- The map is black. They should add a colour for assisted suicide.So, my question is when dud Victoria adopt the new law, was it just a few days ago?175.103.25.137 (talk) 12:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- The map seems accurate. What needs to be changed? - Bilby (talk) 12:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Right. But the map should be changed then. When exactly did this come into effect, a day ago or a week or? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.103.25.137 (talk) 12:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
WA, SA and QLD have all passed legislation allowing for euthanasia now. The laws will commence soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:2441:5400:DCAC:DDC5:31E9:B73E (talk) 03:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Overall list
editwould be super nice to have clear list where both active and passive euthanasia is legal please :)
thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.172.239.38 (talk) 12:31, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
Spanien
editEuthanasia bill moves ahead in Spanish parliament, 11 Feb 2020
talking about portugal
editits a meme that portugal is super catholic but it makes no sense but its still is and will ever be because ....thinhs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.122.213 (talk) 09:45, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Spanien
editSpain legalizes euthanasia and assisted suicide on March 18, 2021 (https://pledgetimes.com/spain-legalizes-euthanasia-and-assisted-suicide/) --Zarateman (talk) 13:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Englisch
editIs mercy Killing legal in the Philippines or not? 2001:4455:1FA:EB00:1576:CED5:1E41:3B1B (talk) 10:39, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Describe the distinction between euthanasia and assisted suscide
editThe article states that, "euthanasia must not be confused with assisted suicide". However, the difference is not explained. Perhaps it would be useful to have a wikipedia article disambiguating the two, and provide a link to that article 2600:100E:B06C:A39:6C5C:9329:2D7D:B177 (talk) 02:22, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
map update
editmap needs to be updated as cuba legalised euthanasia in december 2023 Bird244 (talk) 23:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)