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::Should they be brought here from Commons?--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|talk]]) 00:48, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 
==[[:Index:Minutes of War Cabinet Meeting 2, 11 December 1916.djvu]]==
{{closed| Withdrawn on the basis that whatever the concern, a snowball clause applies|text=
No evidence presented at Commons to confirm OGL status, at best this is an expired Crown work, but that would depend on the meeting notes having been published at some point. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 14:48, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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==[[:Index:The Story of Doctor Dolittle.djvu]]==
{{closed|1=Published in US prior to 1923, therefore PD. [[User:Beeswaxcandle|Beeswaxcandle]] ([[User talk:Beeswaxcandle|talk]]) 22:48, 30 January 2016 (UTC)|text=
UK author, but pre 1923 US edition, Illustrator undocumennted... [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 14:48, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
: If I understand correctly, works published before 1923 in the US (like this one) are PD in the US and therefore hostable. —[[User:Beleg Tâl|Beleg Tâl]] ([[User talk:Beleg Tâl|talk]]) 14:56, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
:Hmm... [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:06, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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==[[Index:A Mainsail Haul - Masefield - 1913.djvu]]==
{{closed|1=speedy kept, published 1913|text=
(Instituting un-official policy of querying Non-US editions).
 
Non US Edition, and Masefield was still alive in 1967, so. may nbot be out of copyright given a UK (life+70) term.
[[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:02, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
* Isn't [[w:Template:PD-US-1923-abroad]] allowed on English Wikisource? --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 15:19, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
::Yes, but the template we use is {{tl|PD-1923}}. —[[User:Beleg Tâl|Beleg Tâl]] ([[User talk:Beleg Tâl|talk]]) 15:35, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
::Our policy does not require the publication pre 1923 to be within the US, as per their legislation. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 01:19, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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==[[Index:Above the battle.djvu]]==
{{closed|1=speedy kept, pre-1923 publication|text=
Instituting an un-official policy of querying Non-US editions.
 
Non-US edition, Translator was still alive in 1957, so a UK term hasn't elapsed (life+70) [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:11, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
* Isn't [[w:Template:PD-US-1923-abroad]] allowed on English Wikisource? --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 15:19, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
:: Yep, pre-1923, so {{tl|PD-1923}}. —[[User:Beleg Tâl|Beleg Tâl]] ([[User talk:Beleg Tâl|talk]]) 15:36, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
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==[[:Index:Canadian poems of the great war.djvu]]==
{{closed|1=speedy kept, published 1918|text=
Canadian edition, refereed per the notes on the talk page, if applying life+70 some of the poems will not have expired. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:14, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
* Isn't [[w:Template:PD-US-1923-abroad]] allowed on English Wikisource? Check [[Page:Canadian poems of the great war.djvu/6]]: published in 1918. --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 15:21, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
: The concern here is the underlying poem copyright, vs the anthology itself. In any event if the scan file isn't already local it should be. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:24, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
:: [[:File:Canadian poems of the great war.djvu]] appears to be hosted on this project, not on Commons. --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 15:29, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
:: Again, {{tl|PD-1923}}. If it was published before 1923, it is public domain in the US, period. It doesn't matter where it was published or when the author died or anything else. Wikisource copyright policy follows US law and thus any works published before 1923 can be hosted on WS. —[[User:Beleg Tâl|Beleg Tâl]] ([[User talk:Beleg Tâl|talk]]) 15:33, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
: It would be a lot simpler if Wikisource adopted the Commons policy to be honest. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:36, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
:: I personally find checking for "published before 1923" much simpler than having to research publication history, author biography, and foreign copyright policy for every work. —[[User:Beleg Tâl|Beleg Tâl]] ([[User talk:Beleg Tâl|talk]]) 15:38, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
:: Simpler for users in the US maybe, not for those of us in (Life+70) regions. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:42, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
::: And the Commons policy often does not help people in countries other than the U.S. and the country of origin, provided that country does not use the rule of the shorter term. Each project will set the rules more based on its target audience, in general. Commons is the widest scope. [[User:Clindberg|Carl Lindberg]] ([[User talk:Clindberg|talk]]) 00:38, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
 
Published pre-1923 — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 01:24, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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== [[:Index:Sun Tzu on The art of war.djvu]] ==
{{closed|1=speedy kept, published 1910|text=
(instituting a policy of querying Non-US editions)
 
London edition, Translator was still alive in 1958, Life+70 term NOT expired yet. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]])
 
: It still matches {{tl|PD-1923}}. —[[User:Beleg Tâl|Beleg Tâl]] ([[User talk:Beleg Tâl|talk]]) 15:28, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
: It wasn't "published" in the US, so using that tag would be misleading. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:31, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
:: It doesn't matter. {{tl|PD-1923}} specifies "published", not "published in the US". —[[User:Beleg Tâl|Beleg Tâl]] ([[User talk:Beleg Tâl|talk]]) 15:34, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
Published prior to 1923 — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 21:50, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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==[[:Index:Selections from the Writings of Lord Dunsany.djvu]]==
{{closed|1=speedy kept published 1912|text=
(Instituting policy of querying Non-US editions)
 
This work is listed as Authors: various, This isn't necessarily sufficient to confirm the status of indvidual works in an anthology. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:34, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
: Published in 1912; {{tl|PD-1923}} —[[User:Beleg Tâl|Beleg Tâl]] ([[User talk:Beleg Tâl|talk]]) 15:39, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
: I encourage you to document the complete status of works (i.e Non US status) included in the anthology, on the Talk Page if needed. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 15:44, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 
::{{ping|ShakespeareFan00}} I ask that you acquaint yourself with our policy, and stop this problematic behaviour. To this point of time this community hasn't done page bans for editors. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 01:27, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
 
Published pre-1923 — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 01:27, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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== [[:Index:To the Victor Belongs the Spoils.djvu]] ==