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Declaration of Arbroath: Revision history


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  • curprev 21:2121:21, 27 August 202150.53.41.171 talk 24,805 bytes +43 →‎List of signatories undo
  • curprev 21:2021:20, 27 August 202150.53.41.171 talk 24,762 bytes +179 →‎Signatories: Also in Professor Barrow's Robert the Bruce and the Community of the Realm of Scotland as cited. undo
  • curprev 21:1321:13, 27 August 202150.53.41.171 talk 24,583 bytes +4 →‎Signatories: According to Professor Barrow in the listed citation there are strong indications that there was a rush to get this document to Avignon which explains the absence of names of strong Bruce supporters who would have been too distant to reach easily. It is highly unlikely they took 'months'. undo
  • curprev 00:4000:40, 27 August 202150.53.41.171 talk 24,579 bytes +46 John de Balliol abdicated and thus no longer had any claim to the throne of Scotland when Robert the Bruce was crowned. He abdicated a full decade before Bruce's coronation. undo
  • curprev 00:3700:37, 27 August 202150.53.41.171 talk 24,533 bytes −17 →‎Debates: There is no 'implication' that John Balliol could not. It is a simple fact. Edward I took him prisoner, seized his crown and seal, forced him to abdicate, and held him prisoner in the Tower of London for three years until he was sent to the pope as a prisoner. undo
  • curprev 00:3300:33, 27 August 202150.53.41.171 talk 24,550 bytes −280 →‎Overview: I deleted a claim of text that is NOT in the text of the declaration. It makes NO reference to nobility. Yet if he should give up what he has begun, and agree to make us or our kingdom subject to the King of England or the English, we should exert ourselves at once to drive him out as our enemy and a subverter of his own rights and ours, and make some other man who was well able to defend us our King; for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any condition undo
  • curprev 00:1600:16, 27 August 202150.53.41.171 talk 24,830 bytes +138 →‎Signatories: Alexander de Kininmund was not a bishop for another couple of decades which should be made clear, but he was best educated of the three men and likely to understand the papal court. undo

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