Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Anne Frank

Anne Frank

Self nomination. This has been on Peer Review for several weeks, and has been reworked in line with some of the comments made about it there, and also on the Talk:Anne Frank page. I think it's now ready for consideration. Rossrs 06:44, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Support. 119 07:04, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Support This is a terrific piece of research and writing. One point: I'd like to see a brief explanation as to why the men in 1959 and later in 1980 were charged for saying the diary was a fake, because many readers may not know the background, and perhaps a link to an article about the 1980 trial. Also, the link to the article examining the authenticity issue (An article on the diary's authenticity by Theresien da Silva of the Anne Frank House) seems to be broken. SlimVirgin 08:07, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

thanks. I'll work on those points. Rossrs 08:28, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

have fixed the link. Took information from that article to expand on the point about the legal cases, and therefore moved the link from "external links" to "references". The article discusses various cases including the 1980 case, in reasonable detail, so by coincidence this addresses your suggestion for a link :-) Broke this section into two subsections.Rossrs 09:42, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Support Very comprehensive, but I wished the part that is mentioned about her death is more distinguish from the main body of the text. Squash 11:19, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

thanks. I don't think the death section needs to be highlighted, any more than the death sections of any other biography where the subject is dead. In fact it's given more mention I suppose than most people who just die a natural death. I don't know what else I could add. Rossrs 18:04, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Support I came across that article a few days ago, and it struck me as being very good. I was convinced it was already featured. Phils 13:48, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Support but I have a question. This article is categorized as "Dutch writers" but according to informations from Japanese article, Anne Frank became a Stateless person after leaving Germany. Also according to it, the judicial branch of Netherland ruled on October 4, 2004 that it could not give the nationality posthumously. So by her being born in Germany, shouldn't the article be also categorized as "German writers"? Revth 17:04, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'd be uncomfortable classing her as a German writer, because she categorized herself as Dutch, rejected the notion that she was German, refused to speak German except when she had to, and was murdered by Germans who didn't think she was German. If anything she could also go into Jewish writers (there is no category of that name at the moment) but I think she should stayed Dutch writers. Rossrs 18:04, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Support. good coverage, but who are these "Aryan citizens" you mention? pamri 17:27, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

The source information I worked with uses the term "Aryan" frequently. I'm sure you realize the intention, as you haven't asked me who the Catholics or Protestants were, and they are also mentioned in the same sentence without me providing their names or addresses. I would like to leave the word Aryan stay as it is, and it's not because I mean it to be offensive. I understand it has racist connotations, and that is the whole point. I would hope anyone reading it who does not know what the word means would click on it to see it's meaning, and most importantly to see what the word meant during Anne Frank's lifetime. I think it's important to remember that she died, not just because she was Jewish but because she was not Aryan. The Nazi's yardstick, same reason the Roma and the Sinta were killed, they weren't Aryan. I think mentioning it early is ok too, just shows that the average Aryan didn't mind having Anne Frank in their neighborhood. Then again, you know if it really bothers you, you're at liberty to change it yourself, as is anybody. It's just that I think the word is more meaningful and specific than any alternative I can think of. Thanks for mentioning it and I'm glad you liked it apart from that. Rossrs 18:04, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Support. Excellent article. --L33tminion | (talk) 22:04, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)
• Support: user has done extensive revisions from feedback from peer review. Excellent article! - Ta bu shi da yu 04:00, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delightful article, but Oppose temporarily, fix the following:
  • Consistency in naming. "Anne" turns into "Frank" and back. Stick with one throughout, even the full name every time if you must, and refer to other members of the family accordingly.

  +sj + 05:07, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)