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| ⚫ | While it's a good couterpart to [[:Template:Polish borders]], there are some changes needed, primarily in light of the changes discussed at [[Talk:Historical Eastern Germany]]. Please also note [[:Image:Europa1937-1939.gif|this great animated map]] - only for 37-39, but perhaps it could be expanded even more? It's very informative.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus| Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|< |
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| ⚫ | While it's a good couterpart to [[:Template:Polish borders]], there are some changes needed, primarily in light of the changes discussed at [[Talk:Historical Eastern Germany]]. Please also note [[:Image:Europa1937-1939.gif|this great animated map]] - only for 37-39, but perhaps it could be expanded even more? It's very informative.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus| Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </span>]]</span></sub> 19:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC) |
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== Why is the heading "Territorial changes of Germany in the 20th century"? == |
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Since Germany was only formed as a unified nation in 1871, why not just make it "Territorial changes of Germany". Then we can have the top-level article be [[Territorial changes of Germany]] with subsidiary articles such as [[Treaty of Versailles]], [[Territorial changes of Germany after World War II]], etc. |
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--[[User:Richardshusr|Richard]] 06:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC) |
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:I was [[WP:BOLD|bold]] and made the change so that the heading points to [[Territorial changes of Germany]] which covers all changes from 1871-1990. (Actually, I did it a couple of days ago but I forgot to leave a note here documenting what I had done. Sorry.) |
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== Reversion of [[User:R9tgokunks]]' recent additions == |
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R9tgokunks added several links which I have reverted because they expanded the scope of the template beyond what I think they should be. I believe that the scope of this template should match the scope of the [[Territorial changes of Germany]] article. The scope of that article, as I envision it, would be restricted to the formal changes in territorial borders of Germany (i.e. annexations and cessions). Thus, occupied territories in France, Scandinavia or Russia would not be included. |
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The links that R9tgokunks added include the following: |
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*[[The industrial plans for Germany|Industrial plans for Germany]] |
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*[[Expulsion of Germans after World War II]] |
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*[[German exodus from Eastern Europe]] |
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*[[Demographic estimates of the German exodus from Eastern Europe]] |
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*[[Evacuation of East Prussia]] |
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These are all worthwhile articles; heck, I am a major contributor to three of them. However, these articles are not about changes in German borders per se although they are related to them. I can understand why R9tgokunks thought that they should be included in the template but I am concerned that the template will get too long and so I think we should limit the scope as I have described above. |
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--[[User:Richardshusr|Richard]] 02:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC) |
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== Sugestion of merge == |
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Hi, |
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{{Germany and Poland Border Changes 20th century}} |
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It wouldn’t be interesting to merge this template with the template about [[Template:Borders of Poland|border changes of Poland]]? At least between the [[19th century|19th]] and mainly [[20th century|20th]] centuries, the border histories of these two countries are quite intertwined. |
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Anyway, I’ve just made a template that could serve as a base for the proposed merge (it’s at the right).--[[User:MaGioZal|MaGioZal]] ([[User talk:MaGioZal|talk]]) 06:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC) |
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While it's a good couterpart to Template:Polish borders, there are some changes needed, primarily in light of the changes discussed at Talk:Historical Eastern Germany. Please also note this great animated map - only for 37-39, but perhaps it could be expanded even more? It's very informative.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 19:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Why is the heading "Territorial changes of Germany in the 20th century"?
Since Germany was only formed as a unified nation in 1871, why not just make it "Territorial changes of Germany". Then we can have the top-level article be Territorial changes of Germany with subsidiary articles such as Treaty of Versailles, Territorial changes of Germany after World War II, etc.
--Richard 06:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- I was bold and made the change so that the heading points to Territorial changes of Germany which covers all changes from 1871-1990. (Actually, I did it a couple of days ago but I forgot to leave a note here documenting what I had done. Sorry.)
Reversion of User:R9tgokunks' recent additions
R9tgokunks added several links which I have reverted because they expanded the scope of the template beyond what I think they should be. I believe that the scope of this template should match the scope of the Territorial changes of Germany article. The scope of that article, as I envision it, would be restricted to the formal changes in territorial borders of Germany (i.e. annexations and cessions). Thus, occupied territories in France, Scandinavia or Russia would not be included.
The links that R9tgokunks added include the following:
- Industrial plans for Germany
- Expulsion of Germans after World War II
- German exodus from Eastern Europe
- Demographic estimates of the German exodus from Eastern Europe
- Evacuation of East Prussia
These are all worthwhile articles; heck, I am a major contributor to three of them. However, these articles are not about changes in German borders per se although they are related to them. I can understand why R9tgokunks thought that they should be included in the template but I am concerned that the template will get too long and so I think we should limit the scope as I have described above.
--Richard 02:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Sugestion of merge
Hi,
| Germany and Poland border changes in the 20th century |
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Versailles and Saint-Germain, 1919 Riga, 1921 Molotov-Ribbentrop, 1939 Yalta, Berlin and Potsdam, 1945 Zgorzelec, 1950 Warsaw, 1970 Two Plus Four and German–Polish Border Treaty, 1990 |
| Current countries |
| Belarus • Belgium • Czech Republic • Denmark • France • Germany • Lithuania • Poland • Russia • Ukraine |
It wouldn’t be interesting to merge this template with the template about border changes of Poland? At least between the 19th and mainly 20th centuries, the border histories of these two countries are quite intertwined.
Anyway, I’ve just made a template that could serve as a base for the proposed merge (it’s at the right).--MaGioZal (talk) 06:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)