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== ??? ==
=="Becoming better edior"==


If somebody titles a discussion "Becoming better edior" and asks "How to become better editor?" and "How i can practice editing wouldn't i be just nuisance if i do that?", then it's not obvious to me that [[Wikipedia:Teahouse#Becoming_better_edior|looking for grammar mistakes]] is something for which they're obviously well suited. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 23:34, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
did you really just threaten to remove me from editing for capitalizing a word? you’ve got to be joking right? it looks terrible and amateurish not capitalized, the title is also capitalized so why wouldn’t it be? stop being ridiculous please. i understand if your life isn’t going super well url, but don’t be taking it out on me. because that’s so incredibly immature and petty to threaten to remove someone for capitalizing a word, get ur stuff together please. thanks ;) [[User:Hunterreeeer|Hunterreeeer]] ([[User talk:Hunterreeeer|talk]]) 19:25, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
:{{reply|Hunterreeeer}} Firstly, the "war" in "war in Donbas" is not capitalized. That's an objective fact. Secondly, I did not "threaten" you, I only warned you that continuing your disruptive edits may get you blocked. Further detail at [[Wikipedia talk:Administrators%27 noticeboard#The Tips of Amph]]. --[[User:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">'''The Tips'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''of'''</span>]] [[User talk:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#00b02f">'''Apmh'''</span>]] 22:32, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


:@[[User:Hoary|Hoary]]: Yes... I now notice their worrying lack of grammatical skills themselves. But to me, it really seemed like you were pre-emptively forbidding them from contributing a certain way. '''[[User:Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">Ap</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">m</span>]][[User talk:Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">h</span>]]''' 00:00, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
you threw a “final warning” saying if i continued to make such edits i’d be removed, what do you call it?
you throw a warning for me changing a single letter and call it vandalism/disruptive like come on dude, does changing a single letter make you that upset that you call it disruptive editing / vandalism.
and generally, it should be capitalized as you’re talking about a War. you don’t call it the Boer war, you call it the Boer War, it’s not the Korean war, it’s typed as the Korean War. I was fixing an edit that all other pages have as capitalized, but it’s whatever i respect your opinion and that mine not be correct, just don’t go mindlessly throwing warnings around, thanks :) [[User:Hunterreeeer|Hunterreeeer]] ([[User talk:Hunterreeeer|talk]]) 22:51, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|Hunterreeeer}} It appears that you have gotten five warnings from four different users, not including me. That's why I gave you a "final warning". Also, I do not know why you are still arguing about "war" being capitalized. Please see [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C24&q=%22War+in+Donbas%22&btnG= this] and [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=war+in+Donbas%2C+War+in+Donbas&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cwar%20in%20Donbas%3B%2Cc0 this] which show the general preference to not capitalize "war". --[[User:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">'''The Tips'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''of'''</span>]] [[User talk:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#00b02f">'''Apmh'''</span>]] 23:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


Yes, rather than write "No, please don't look for grammar mistakes. Instead, help look for [...]", I could beneficially have written "Rather than looking for grammar mistakes, help look for [...]". Actually I think that encouraging people to look for "grammar mistakes" is more generally a poor idea. Squillions of en:Wikipedia editors have an excellent (unconscious) command of English grammar, but a sizeable minority of these are likely to have unfortunate (conscious) notions of "English grammar", being deluded that this is an arcane practice that forbids "[[singular they|singular ''they'']]", "[[comprised of]]", and miscellaneous other bugbears of deluded "authorities" and dimwitted teachers. Better to nudge editors (though not this one) toward "rewriting awkwardly phrased text" or similar, with no mention of either "grammar" or "correctness". -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 00:36, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
i’m just saying others pages have this, and wonder why you’re making an exception ;) and as i said, i understand my opinion may be wrong, but you don’t need to warn for something so small, stop defending yourself on that.
and also how do i have four warnings, do people seriously throw warnings for such little things, because i was not aware of that, as the only ones i saw that had warnings were yours and another dudes, only others i can think of were that i didn’t reference, but i went and changed them and fixed them if i had noticed, hardly reason for a warning ? [[User:Hunterreeeer|Hunterreeeer]] ([[User talk:Hunterreeeer|talk]]) 23:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


:@[[User:Hoary|Hoary]]: I agree - '''[[User:Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">Ap</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">m</span>]][[User talk:Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">h</span>]]''' 13:27, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
and also you used the word “preference not to capitalize”, so just bring your opinion, which others vary, hardly a reason for a warning, i’m sure you wouldn’t be happy if you just got thrown a warning for someone’s “preference” on a singular letter [[User:Hunterreeeer|Hunterreeeer]] ([[User talk:Hunterreeeer|talk]]) 23:08, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|Hunterreeeer}} What bothered me with your edit was how you changed only the first mention of "war in Donbas" and not the other ~10 times it was mentioned uncapitalized. That's why I assumed it was just vandalism.
:Also, not capitalizing "war" is not ''my'' preference, it's the preference in scholarly articles as a whole. --[[User:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">'''The Tips'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''of'''</span>]] [[User talk:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#00b02f">'''Apmh'''</span>]] 23:14, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


== Your last acc sandbox ==
only saw the one as it was the first few words that anyone reads on the pages and thought it should generally be capitalized (and it’s bolded aswell) but apologies if it upset you. as i said, i respect your opinion on it. but please just don’t go assuming things in bad faith, as that’s not the correct approach. this could have been settled a lot better if you had just asked why i didn’t change the others, which i would have absolutely gone and changed them once you voiced your concern! that would’ve been no problem whatsoever! i just wasn’t aware changing one letter in a bolded title would require going and changing every single other word affiliated with it. [[User:Hunterreeeer|Hunterreeeer]] ([[User talk:Hunterreeeer|talk]]) 23:21, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


Hi i notice that on your last account you had:[[User:Dahme002/sandbox]] which seems like pretty useful page to me do you have any plan on moving it to main space? [[User:DarkHorseMayhem|DarkHorseMayhem]] ([[User talk:DarkHorseMayhem|talk]]) 20:17, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Hunterreeeer}} I agree, I was kind of in a rush when I pressed the warn button. Also, keep in mind that it's not a "if you get warned 5 times you get insta-blocked" kind of thing. In a vacuum, warnings do not mean anything at all. It takes an entire administrator to review your edits and conclude whether you should get blocked or not. [[User:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">'''The Tips'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''of'''</span>]] [[User talk:The Tips of Apmh|<span style="color:#00b02f">'''Apmh'''</span>]] 23:27, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

:@[[User:DarkHorseMayhem|DarkHorseMayhem]]: It's a copy of [[Wikipedia:Five pillars]] - '''[[User:Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">Ap</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">m</span>]][[User talk:Apmh|<span style="color:#0000FF">h</span>]]''' 20:23, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
::Ah okay mb i didn't saw. [[User:DarkHorseMayhem|DarkHorseMayhem]] ([[User talk:DarkHorseMayhem|talk]]) 20:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

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"Becoming better edior"

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If somebody titles a discussion "Becoming better edior" and asks "How to become better editor?" and "How i can practice editing wouldn't i be just nuisance if i do that?", then it's not obvious to me that looking for grammar mistakes is something for which they're obviously well suited. -- Hoary (talk) 23:34, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hoary: Yes... I now notice their worrying lack of grammatical skills themselves. But to me, it really seemed like you were pre-emptively forbidding them from contributing a certain way. Apmh 00:00, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, rather than write "No, please don't look for grammar mistakes. Instead, help look for [...]", I could beneficially have written "Rather than looking for grammar mistakes, help look for [...]". Actually I think that encouraging people to look for "grammar mistakes" is more generally a poor idea. Squillions of en:Wikipedia editors have an excellent (unconscious) command of English grammar, but a sizeable minority of these are likely to have unfortunate (conscious) notions of "English grammar", being deluded that this is an arcane practice that forbids "singular they", "comprised of", and miscellaneous other bugbears of deluded "authorities" and dimwitted teachers. Better to nudge editors (though not this one) toward "rewriting awkwardly phrased text" or similar, with no mention of either "grammar" or "correctness". -- Hoary (talk) 00:36, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hoary: I agree - Apmh 13:27, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your last acc sandbox

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Hi i notice that on your last account you had:User:Dahme002/sandbox which seems like pretty useful page to me do you have any plan on moving it to main space? DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 20:17, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DarkHorseMayhem: It's a copy of Wikipedia:Five pillars - Apmh 20:23, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah okay mb i didn't saw. DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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