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The [[:Image:Waterlily1web.jpg]] was removed. I'm afraid the plant shown on it can't be identified precisely. Therefore, with all its artistic qualities, it doesn't give any new information, since there are already three other images, properly identified and of reasonable quality. [[User:Iorsh|Iorsh]] 06:53, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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This is a hardy water lily hybrid which looks to me is the hybrid called N. 'James Brydon.' --[[User:Dara|Dara]] 03:06, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

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Is anyone seriously opposed to moving this article to a page called Nymphaeaceae, and having the common names of water lily link there? It'd be nice if the plant taxonomy articles all used a smilar naming convention for their pages--[[User:Petaholmes|nixie]] 03:21, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:That's would be against the naming convention of Wikipedia and of the [[WP:TOL|Tree of Life Wikiproject]]. I would stick to the standard, but if you want to debate it, I would find the discussion there. Sorry I can't point you directly to it. --[[User:Chinasaur|Chinasaur]]

::I don't suppose that it matters anyway since all the plants in the family are called water-lillies--[[User:Petaholmes|nixie]] 21:33, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:::Similar discussion has been dragging along with orchids, without much of a definitive resolution. Only a few families actually match up with a common name, so it doesn't come up often. I'd say to leave it at common name, people who look at lists of families will know what is going on, while nonspecialists seeing this article for the first time would be mystified by getting redirected to an "aceae". [[User:Stan Shebs|Stan]] 22:26, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

== Confusing.. ==
This page is very confusing. I searched for [[water lilies]] and it redirected me to this page ([[water lily]]) which seems to an article on ''[[Nymphaeaceae]]'' (the water lily family) and [[water lily|water lilies]] merged together. And I notice some very common mistakes in the article like the confusion about lotus and waterlilies.

I think that the term waterlily or waterlilies should redirect viewers to the ''[[Nymphaea]]'' (the genus name of water lilies) page. And ''[[Nymphaeaceae]]'' should be it's own page because ''Nymphaeaceae'' is the name of the water lily family which includes other genera besides ''Nymphaea ''(water lilies) like ''[[Nuphar]]'', ''[[Barclaya]]'', ''[[Nelumbo]]'', etc. --[[User:Dara|Dara]] 03:20, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
:Agreed (except that ''Nelumbo'' isn't in this family); I'm working on it - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 11:10, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Done - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 13:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::I've changed the page "[[Water lily]]" to a disambiguation that redirects to [[Nymphaeaceae]] and [[Nelumbonaceae]]. Nov 2 2006

Nymphaeaceae is quoted as the common ancestor of all flowering plants by David Attenborough in his "Kingdom of Plants" on the television last night (21-10-12). I would mention the wind dispersal aspect clearly referred to by Attenborough evident in gymnosperms, is present in Monocot species like cereals and reeds (Commelinids). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/165.228.176.170|165.228.176.170]] ([[User talk:165.228.176.170|talk]]) 01:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I agree that it is important to make sure that Nelumbo is *not* included here -- it is definitely not part of Nymphaeaceae. I believe the reference to the longevity of Nymphaeaceae seeds also really refers to Nelumbo -- some 2000 year old Nelumbo (Sacred Lotus) seeds were germinated -- but I do not believe the same can be said for anything in Nymphaeaceae.
:Yeah, you're probably right. I removed it, and it can stay out until it is sourced. Please feel free to edit things of this nature yourself as it was a good catch.[[User:KP Botany|KP Botany]] 19:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

== Just One Simple Question.. ==

I Just Want To Know HOW The Lily Pad Is Made.. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/207.119.69.230|207.119.69.230]] ([[User talk:207.119.69.230|talk]]) 04:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Size ==

I've just commented-out the sloppy statement about size in the leader, which has been there at least a year. The plants spread by rhizomes, to form beds. This needs to be clarified, rather than implying that in a plant (connected by rhizomes) 40 metres across, the leaves and stems are all connected to one point at the base. I've not done this because it also really needs a reliable citation, as does the leaf size, as it's one of those things that get distorted by heresay. If you can help with citation, please do. As for how big a plant will grow in a pond, this seems a useless statement: it will grow to fill most ponds! – subject to competition. I suspect the writer was alluding to largest leaf size. <span style="font-family: 'Brush script MT', cursive;font-size:1.4em;vertical-align:middle;"> [[User:Trev M|Trev M ]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Trev_M|~&nbsp;]]</span> 14:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Too technical ==

Description should be split into a simple description and the botanical description. I merely want to know how the plant works; how it grows to the surface, how it adapts to the water level, if the seeds sink to the bottom, etc.

Very good question
[[User:Souravgg8|Souravgg8]] ([[User talk:Souravgg8|talk]]) 20:18, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

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