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{{Short description|New Zealand rugby union player and rugby league footballer}}
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|name = Hubert Turtill
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'''"Jum" Hurbert Sydney Turtill'''<ref>[http://nzleague.co.nz/kiwis/player_profile.php?letter=T&id=21 TURTILL, Hubert Sydney 1907 - 08 - Kiwi #21] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110719143001/http://nzleague.co.nz/kiwis/player_profile.php?letter=T&id=21 |date=19 July 2011 }} ''nzleague.co.nz''</ref> was a New Zealand dual-code footballer, playing [[rugby union]] and then [[rugby league]] for New Zealand.<ref name="Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org"/> After emigrating to Britain, he served in the British Army during the First World War, and was killed while serving in 1918.
'''"Jum" Hubert Sydney Turtill'''<ref>[http://nzleague.co.nz/kiwis/player_profile.php?letter=T&id=21 TURTILL, Hubert Sydney 1907 - 08 - Kiwi #21] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110719143001/http://nzleague.co.nz/kiwis/player_profile.php?letter=T&id=21 |date=19 July 2011 }} ''nzleague.co.nz''</ref> (1 February 1880 – 9 April 1918) was a New Zealand dual-code footballer, playing [[rugby union]] and then [[rugby league]] for New Zealand.<ref name="Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org"/> After emigrating to Britain, he served in the British Army during the First World War, and was killed while serving in 1918.


==Early years==
==Early years==
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==Rugby league==
==Rugby league==
In 1907 he joined the [[New Zealand national rugby league team|professional All Blacks]]{{snd}}better known as the All Golds''<ref>{{Cite web |url=http://allgolds.net/ |title=All Golds |access-date=18 January 2020 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171010124413/http://www.allgolds.net/ |archive-date=10 October 2017 |url-status=dead }}</ref>''{{snd}}on their tour of Great Britain and Australia, thus joining the code that would evolve into rugby league. He was selected because he was considered well versed in wet weather football, something the side would constantly experience in Great Britain.<ref name=book /> On the tour he played in six test matches and captained the side in the [[1907–08 New Zealand rugby tour of Australia and Great Britain#1908 in Australia|first ever trans-Tasman test]] against the [[Australia national rugby league team]] in 1908. Turtill only scored one try on tour, but it was an important one - in a test match against Great Britain - and helped them win the series.
In 1907 he joined the [[New Zealand national rugby league team|professional All Blacks]]{{snd}}better known as the [[1907–08 New Zealand rugby tour of Australia and Great Britain|All Golds]]''<ref>{{Cite web |url=http://allgolds.net/ |title=All Golds |access-date=18 January 2020 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171010124413/http://www.allgolds.net/ |archive-date=10 October 2017 |url-status=dead }}</ref>''{{snd}}on their tour of Great Britain and Australia, thus joining the code that would evolve into rugby league. He was selected because he was considered well versed in wet weather football, something the side would constantly experience in Great Britain.<ref name=book /> On the tour he played in six test matches. Turtill captained the side in the [[1907–08 New Zealand rugby tour of Australia and Great Britain#1908 in Australia|first ever trans-Tasman test]] against the [[Australia national rugby league team]] on 9 May 1908 when New Zealand won 11-10. Turtill only scored one try on tour, but it was an important one - the first by New Zealand in a test match against Great Britain at Leeds on 25 January 1908 - and helped them win the series.


Once the tour was over he returned to England with his wife, originally intending to play for [[Salford Red Devils|Salford]].<ref>Coffey, John. ''Canterbury XIII'', Christchurch, 1987. p.15</ref> However he instead joined [[St Helens R.F.C.|St. Helens]] where he also owned a [[pub]], the "Lord Nelson Hotel" in St Helens.<ref name=coffey />
Once the tour was over he returned to England with his wife, Mabel, originally intending to play for [[Salford Red Devils|Salford]].<ref>Coffey, John. ''Canterbury XIII'', Christchurch, 1987. p.15</ref> However he instead joined [[St Helens R.F.C.|St. Helens]] where he also owned a [[pub]], the "Lord Nelson Hotel" in St Helens.<ref name=coffey />


==First World War==
==First World War==
After the outbreak of the First World War, Turtill served with the [[British Army]]. He became a sergeant in the [[Royal Engineers]] until he was killed in France in 1918.<ref name=coffey>Coffey and Wood ''The Kiwis: 100 Years of International Rugby League'' {{ISBN|1-86971-090-8}}</ref><ref>[http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/189285 CWGC entry]</ref>
After the outbreak of the First World War, Turtill served with the [[British Army]]. He became a sergeant in the [[Royal Engineers]] until he was killed in France in 1918 during the [[Battle of Givenchy]].<ref name=coffey>Coffey and Wood ''The Kiwis: 100 Years of International Rugby League'' {{ISBN|1-86971-090-8}}</ref><ref>[http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/189285 CWGC entry]</ref>

Turtill’s body was buried in a French war cemetery.

In 2022 the [[New Zealand Rugby Museum]] displayed a tribute to Turtill, including items on loan from his family, such as his Canterbury cap and New Zealand jersey and cap and his engraved war service medallion.


==See also==
==See also==
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==References==
==References==
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Latest revision as of 18:07, 14 February 2024

Jum Turtill
Personal information
Full nameHubert Sydney Turtill
Born(1880-02-01)1 February 1880
London, England
Died9 April 1918(1918-04-09) (aged 38)
France
Playing information
Height5 ft 9 in (175 cm)
Weight72 kg (11 st 5 lb)
Rugby union
PositionFullback
Club
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1902–06 Canterbury
Representative
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1905 Neuseeland 1 0 0 0 0
Rugby league
PositionFullback
Club
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1909–13 St. Helens 137 3 197 0 403
Representative
Years Team Pld T G FG P
1907–08 Neuseeland 31 (6) 4 (1) (1) 0 14 (5)
Source: [1]

"Jum" Hubert Sydney Turtill[2] (1 February 1880 – 9 April 1918) was a New Zealand dual-code footballer, playing rugby union and then rugby league for New Zealand.[1] After emigrating to Britain, he served in the British Army during the First World War, and was killed while serving in 1918.

Early years

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Turtill's father died in London when he was only three years old and his mother decided to move to New Zealand to be with relatives. On the sea voyage in 1884 he gained the nickname Jum, short for Jumbo. Turtill worked in New Zealand as a decorative metal worker.[3]

Rugby union

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He started his rugby union career playing for Christchurch Albion before making the Canterbury team in 1902.[4] He represented the South Island in 1903 and 1907. He became an All Black in 1905, playing against Australia.

Rugby league

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In 1907 he joined the professional All Blacks – better known as the All Golds[5] – on their tour of Great Britain and Australia, thus joining the code that would evolve into rugby league. He was selected because he was considered well versed in wet weather football, something the side would constantly experience in Great Britain.[4] On the tour he played in six test matches. Turtill captained the side in the first ever trans-Tasman test against the Australia national rugby league team on 9 May 1908 when New Zealand won 11-10. Turtill only scored one try on tour, but it was an important one - the first by New Zealand in a test match against Great Britain at Leeds on 25 January 1908 - and helped them win the series.

Once the tour was over he returned to England with his wife, Mabel, originally intending to play for Salford.[6] However he instead joined St. Helens where he also owned a pub, the "Lord Nelson Hotel" in St Helens.[7]

First World War

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After the outbreak of the First World War, Turtill served with the British Army. He became a sergeant in the Royal Engineers until he was killed in France in 1918 during the Battle of Givenchy.[7][8]

Turtill’s body was buried in a French war cemetery.

In 2022 the New Zealand Rugby Museum displayed a tribute to Turtill, including items on loan from his family, such as his Canterbury cap and New Zealand jersey and cap and his engraved war service medallion.

See also

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References

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  1. ^ a b "Statistics at rugbyleagueproject.org". rugbyleagueproject.org. 31 December 2017. Retrieved 1 January 2018.
  2. ^ TURTILL, Hubert Sydney 1907 - 08 - Kiwi #21 Archived 19 July 2011 at the Wayback Machine nzleague.co.nz
  3. ^ Coffey, John. Canterbury XIII, Christchurch, 1987. p.11
  4. ^ a b John Haynes From All Blacks to All Golds: Rugby League's Pioneers, Christchurch, Ryan and Haynes, 1996. ISBN 0-473-03864-1
  5. ^ "All Golds". Archived from the original on 10 October 2017. Retrieved 18 January 2020.
  6. ^ Coffey, John. Canterbury XIII, Christchurch, 1987. p.15
  7. ^ a b Coffey and Wood The Kiwis: 100 Years of International Rugby League ISBN 1-86971-090-8
  8. ^ CWGC entry
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