Jump to content

The Cruel Mother: Difference between revisions

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
→‎Variants: Variants of "The Cruel Mother", not "The Maid and the Palmer"
Addition of other performers on Murmurs album, hyperlinking Simpson, Cutting, and Kerr articles.
 
(24 intermediate revisions by 20 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{short description|Traditional song}}
{{redirect|Down by the Greenwood Side|the opera by Harrison Birtwistle|Down by the Greenwood Side (opera)}}
{{redirect|Down by the Greenwood Side|the opera by Harrison Birtwistle|Down by the Greenwood Side (opera)}}
{{Wikisource|Child's Ballads/20}}'''"The Cruel Mother"''' (a.k.a. "The Greenwood Side" or "Greenwood Sidey") ([[Child ballad|Child 20]], [[Roud Folk Song Index|Roud]] [http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?cross=off&index_roud=on&query=9&field=20 9]) is a [[murder ballad]] originating in [[England]] that has since become popular throughout the wider English-speaking world.<ref>The Ozarks: An American Survival of Primitive Society
{{Wikisource|Child's Ballads/20}}'''"The Cruel Mother"''' (a.k.a. '''"The Greenwood Side"''' or '''"Greenwood Sidey"''') ({{English folk song|roud=9|child=20}}) is a [[murder ballad]] originating in [[England]] that has since become popular throughout the wider English-speaking world.<ref>The Ozarks: An American Survival of Primitive Society
By Vance Randolph</ref><ref>[[Francis James Child]], ''English and Scottish Popular Ballads'', [http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/child/ch020.htm "The Cruel Mother"]</ref>
By Vance Randolph</ref><ref>[[Francis James Child]], ''English and Scottish Popular Ballads'', [http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/child/ch020.htm "The Cruel Mother"]</ref>


Line 13: Line 14:


==Variants==
==Variants==
This ballad exists in a number of variants, in some of which there are verses where the dead children tell the mother she will suffer a number of penances each lasting seven years, e.g. "Seven years to ring a bell / And seven years porter in hell".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Child |first1=Francis James |title=The English and Scottish Popular Ballads |volume=Vol. 1 |date=1882 |publisher=Houghton, Mifflin |location=Boston |page=225 |url=https://archive.org/details/englishandscotti01chiluoft/page/n237 |accessdate=18 July 2019}}</ref> Those verses properly belong in "[[The Maid and the Palmer]]" (Child ballad 21).<ref>Child (1882), [https://archive.org/details/englishandscotti01chiluoft/page/n231 p. 218]</ref> Variants of "The Cruel Mother" include "Carlisle Hall", "The Rose o Malinde", "Fine Flowers in the Valley", "The Minister's Daughter of New York", and "The Lady From Lee", among others. "Fine Flowers of the Valley" is a Scottish variant. [[Weela Weela Walya]] is an Irish schoolyard version.<ref>{{cite web|title=Weela Weela Walya|url=http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/songs/cmc/weela_weela_wallia_vboyle.htm|website=Songs of Clare|publisher=Clare County Library|accessdate=11 July 2019}}</ref> A closely related German ballad exists in many variants: a child comes to a woman's wedding to announce himself her child and that she had murdered three children, the woman says the Devil can carry her off if it is true, and the Devil appears to do so.<ref>Child (1882), pp. 219–20</ref>
This ballad exists in a number of variants, in some of which there are verses where the dead children tell the mother she will suffer a number of penances each lasting seven years, e.g. "Seven years to ring a bell / And seven years porter in hell".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Child |first1=Francis James |title=The English and Scottish Popular Ballads |volume=1 |date=1882 |publisher=Houghton, Mifflin |location=Boston |page=[https://archive.org/details/englishandscotti01chiluoft/page/n238 225] |url=https://archive.org/details/englishandscotti01chiluoft |access-date=18 July 2019}}</ref> Those verses properly belong in "[[The Maid and the Palmer]]" (Child ballad 21).<ref>Child (1882), [https://archive.org/details/englishandscotti01chiluoft/page/n231 p. 218]</ref> Variants of "The Cruel Mother" include "Carlisle Hall", "The Rose o Malinde", "Fine Flowers in the Valley", "The Minister's Daughter of New York", and "The Lady From Lee", among others. "Fine Flowers of the Valley" is a Scottish variant. [[Weela Weela Walya]] is an Irish schoolyard version.<ref>{{cite web|title=Weela Weela Walya|url=http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/songs/cmc/weela_weela_wallia_vboyle.htm|website=Songs of Clare|publisher=Clare County Library|access-date=11 July 2019}}</ref> A closely related German ballad exists in many variants: a child comes to a woman's wedding to announce himself her child and that she had murdered three children, the woman says the Devil can carry her off if it is true, and the Devil appears to do so.<ref>Child (1882), pp. 219–20</ref>


Ballad scholar Hyder Rollins listed a broadside print dated 1638, and a fairly complete version was published in London in broadside ballad format as "The Duke's Daughter's Cruelty: Or the Wonderful Apparition of two Infants whom she Murther'd and Buried in a Forrest, for to hide her Shame" sometime between 1684 and 1695.<ref>Cazden, Norman, Herbert Haufrechtt, and Norman Studer. [https://books.google.com/books?id=FbTOKRGC3SIC&lpg=PR1&pg=PR1#v=onepage&q&f=false Folksongs of the Catskills]. Albany: SUNY Press, 1982. 251-252. Print.</ref>
Ballad scholar Hyder Rollins listed a broadside print dated 1638, and a fairly complete version was published in London in broadside ballad format as "The Duke's Daughter's Cruelty: Or the Wonderful Apparition of two Infants whom she Murther'd and Buried in a Forrest, for to hide her Shame" sometime between 1684 and 1695.<ref>Cazden, Norman, Herbert Haufrechtt, and Norman Studer. [https://books.google.com/books?id=FbTOKRGC3SIC&pg=PR1 Folksongs of the Catskills]. Albany: SUNY Press, 1982. 251-252. Print.</ref>


This ballad was one of 25 traditional works included in ''Ballads Weird and Wonderful'' (1912) and illustrated by [[Vernon Hill (sculptor)|Vernon Hill]].
This ballad was one of 25 traditional works included in ''Ballads Weird and Wonderful'' (1912) and illustrated by [[Vernon Hill (sculptor)|Vernon Hill]].
Line 22: Line 23:
<!-- Other names: "Versions", "Performances", "Modern Adaptions" -->
<!-- Other names: "Versions", "Performances", "Modern Adaptions" -->


{| border="1"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
! Album/Single !! Performer !! Year !! Variant !! Notes
! Album/Single !! Performer !! Year !! Variant !! Notes
|-
|-
| ''False True Lovers'' || Shirley Collins || 1959 || The Cruel Mother || .
| ''False True Lovers'' || Shirley Collins || 1959 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
|Dear Companion: Bonnie Dobson
| ''Dear Companion: Bonnie Dobson'' || Bonnie Dobson || 1960 || The Cruel Mother ||
|Bonnie Dobson
|1960
|The Cruel Mother
|
|-
|-
| Folksongs of Britain: Child Ballads Vol 1 || Thomas Moran || 1961 || The Cruel Mother || Recorded 1954
| ''The Folk Songs of Britain, Vol. IV: The Child Ballads 1'' || Thomas Moran || 1961 || The Cruel Mother || Recorded 1954. Although the refrain of this version is that of "The Cruel Mother", the actual verses belong to a different song, Child Ballad no. 21, "[[The Maid and the Palmer]]" (aka "The Well Below The Valley")
|-
|-
|''[https://www.allmusic.com/album/four-strong-winds-mw0000315505 Four Strong Winds]''
| ''[https://www.allmusic.com/album/four-strong-winds-mw0000315505 Four Strong Winds]'' || [[Ian & Sylvia]] || 1964 || The Greenwood Side ||
|[[Ian & Sylvia]]
|1964
|The Greenwood Side
|
|-
|-
| ''[[The Judy Collins Concert]]'' || [[Judy Collins]] || 1964 || The Cruel Mother || .
| ''[[The Judy Collins Concert]]'' || [[Judy Collins]] || 1964 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''The Long Harvest, Vol. 1'' || [[Ewan MacColl]] and [[Peggy Seeger]] || 1967 || see note || Album contains three versions of The Cruel Mother, one variant called "Down By the Greenwood Sidey-O", <br />
| ''The Long Harvest, Vol. 1'' || [[Ewan MacColl]] and [[Peggy Seeger]] || 1967 || see note || Album contains three versions of The Cruel Mother, one variant called "Down By the Greenwood Sidey-O", and another called "The Lady From Lee".
and another called "The Lady From Lee".
|-
|-
| ''[[Ballads]]'' || [[Hedy West]] || 1967 || The Cruel Mother || .
| ''Ballads'' || [[Hedy West]] || 1967 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''[[Joan (album)|Joan]]'' || [[Joan Baez]] || 1967 || The Greenwood Side || .
| ''[[Joan (album)|Joan]]'' || [[Joan Baez]] || 1967 || The Greenwood Side ||
|-
|-
| ''Kishmul's Galley'' || [[The Corries]] || 1968 || Cruel Brother || .
| ''[[A Beacon from Mars (album)|A Beacon from Mars]]'' || [[Kaleidoscope (US band)|Kaleidoscope]] || 1968 || The Greenwood Sidee ||
|-
|-
| ''[[A Beacon from Mars (album)|A Beacon from Mars]]'' || [[Kaleidoscope (US band)|Kaleidoscope]] || 1968 || The Greenwood Side || .
| ''The Sweet Primroses'' || [[Shirley Collins]] || 1970 || The Cruel Mother ||
|- ''The Sweet Primroses'' || [[Shirley Collins]] || 1970 || The Cruel Mother || .
|-
|-
| ''[[Landfall (Martin Carthy album)|Landfall]]'' || [[Martin Carthy]] || 1972 || The Cruel Mother || .
| ''[[Landfall (Martin Carthy album)|Landfall]]'' || [[Martin Carthy]] || 1972 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''[[The Voice of the People]] Vol. 3'' || Lizzie Higgins || 1988 || The Cruel Mother || Recorded 1975
| ''[[The Voice of the People]] Vol. 3'' || Lizzie Higgins || 1988 || The Cruel Mother || Recorded 1975
|-
|-
| ''[[Tempted and tried]]'' || [[Steeleye Span]] || 1989 || The Cruel Mother||.
| ''[[Tempted and tried]]'' || [[Steeleye Span]] || 1989 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''Flesh and Blood'' || [[Maddy Prior]] || 1997 || The Cruel Mother || .
| ''Duše lásky'' || [[Asonance]] || 1994 || Krutá matka || Czech translation
|-
|-
| ''Ye Shine Whar Ye Stan!'' || Jock Duncan || 1996 || The Cruel Mother || .
| ''Legacy''|| [[Old Blind Dogs]]|| 1995 || The Greenwood Side || The track is titled "The Rose and the Lindsey O'."
|-
| ''Ye Shine Whar Ye Stan!'' || Jock Duncan || 1996 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''Live at Newport'' || [[Ian & Sylvia]] || 1996 || The Greenwood Side || Recorded live at the [[Newport Folk Festival]], 1963.
| ''Live at Newport'' || [[Ian & Sylvia]] || 1996 || The Greenwood Side || Recorded live at the [[Newport Folk Festival]], 1963.
|-
|-
|''Flesh and Blood''
| ''Songs Of Experience'' || Cindy Mangsen || 1998 || The Cruel Mother || .
|[[Maddy Prior]]
|1997
|The Cruel Mother
|
|-
|-
| ''Shantalla'' || Shantalla || 2000 || Fine flowers in the valley || .
| ''Songs Of Experience'' || Cindy Mangsen || 1998 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''Greenwood Side'' || Lothlorien || 2000 || Greenwood Side || .
| ''Shantalla'' || Shantalla || 2000 || Fine flowers in the valley ||
|-
|-
| ''A Day Like Today'' || [[Emily Smith (singer)|Emily Smith]] || 2002 || The Cruel Mother || .
| ''Greenwood Side'' || Lothlorien || 2000 || Greenwood Side ||
|-
|-
| ''No Earthly Man'' || [[Alasdair Roberts (musician)|Alasdair Roberts]] || 2005|| The Cruel Mother || .
| ''A Day Like Today'' || [[Emily Smith (singer)|Emily Smith]] || 2002 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''Wolverley Summer of Love 2007'' || Stuart Estel|| 2007 || The Cruel Mother || .
| ''No Earthly Man'' || [[Alasdair Roberts (musician)|Alasdair Roberts]] || 2005|| The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''To The Ground'' || [[Kerfuffle]] || 2006 || Down By The Greenwood Side || .
| ''Wolverley Summer of Love 2007'' || Stuart Estel|| 2007 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
| ''To The Ground'' || [[Kerfuffle]] || 2006 || Down By The Greenwood Side ||
|-
|-
| ''In The Shadow of Mountains'' || [[Bella Hardy]] || 2009 || Cruel Mother || Miss Hardy omits 'The' from the title but it is nonetheless a variant of the folk song.
| ''In The Shadow of Mountains'' || [[Bella Hardy]] || 2009 || Cruel Mother || Miss Hardy omits 'The' from the title but it is nonetheless a variant of the folk song.
|-
|-
| ''[[Lady Diamond]]'' || Bryony Griffith <br />& Will Hampson || 2011 || The Lady of York || From the singing of Jim Eldon.
| ''Lady Diamond'' || Bryony Griffith <br />& Will Hampson || 2011 || The Lady of York || From the singing of Jim Eldon.
|-
|-
| ''Here's to those we could not save'' || The Imaginary Suitcase || 2012 || Fine flowers in the valley || .
| ''Born to wonder'' EP || Louise Jordan || 2011 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''Old Light: Songs from my Childhood & Other Gone Worlds || [[Rayna Gellert]] || 2012 || Cruel Mother || .
| ''Here's to those we could not save'' || The Imaginary Suitcase || 2012 || Fine flowers in the valley ||
|-
|-
| ''Revival'' || [[Bellowhead]] || 2014 || Greenwood Side || .
| ''Old Light: Songs from my Childhood & Other Gone Worlds'' || [[Rayna Gellert]] || 2012 || Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''Fiona Hunter'' || Fiona Hunter || 2014 || The Cruel Mother || .
| ''Revival'' || [[Bellowhead]] || 2014 || Greenwood Side ||
|-
|-
| ''[[Twice Told Tales (album)|Twice Told Tales]]'' || ''[[10,000 Maniacs]]'' || 2015 || Greenwood Sidey || .
| ''Fiona Hunter'' || Fiona Hunter || 2014 || The Cruel Mother ||
|-
|-
| ''Murmurs'' || Nancy Kerr || 2015 || Cruel Mother ||.
| ''[[Twice Told Tales (album)|Twice Told Tales]]'' || [[10,000 Maniacs]] || 2015 || Greenwood Sidey ||
|-
|-
|''Anna & Elizabeth''
| ''Here in the Deep'' || Dave Heumann || 2016 || Greenwood Side ||.
|Anna & Elizabeth
|2015
|Greenwood Sidey
|
|-
| ''Murmurs'' || [[Nancy Kerr]], [[Martin Simpson]] and [[Andy Cutting]] || 2015 || Cruel Mother ||
|-
| ''Here in the Deep'' || Dave Heumann || 2016 || Greenwood Side ||
|-
| ''CYRM'' || ØXN || 2023 || Cruel Mother ||
|}
|}
Another variant of the song is Louise Jordan's version, taken from her EP "Born to wonder"


==See also==
==See also==
Line 107: Line 115:


==References==
==References==
{{reflist}}
{{Reflist}}


==External links==
==External links==
Line 113: Line 121:
*[http://www.contemplator.com/child/mother.html ''The Cruel Mother''] with historical commentary
*[http://www.contemplator.com/child/mother.html ''The Cruel Mother''] with historical commentary
*[http://www.contemplator.com/scotland/fineflwr.html ''Fine Flowers in the Valley''] variant
*[http://www.contemplator.com/scotland/fineflwr.html ''Fine Flowers in the Valley''] variant

*[http://www.dandutton.com/downloads.html An MP3 recording of The Cruel Mother by Kentucky ballad singer Daniel Dutton]
{{Francis James Child}}
{{Francis James Child}}
{{Authority control}}


{{DEFAULTSORT:Cruel Mother}}
{{DEFAULTSORT:Cruel Mother}}
[[Category:Songs about parenthood]]
[[Category:Songwriter unknown]]
[[Category:Murder ballads]]
[[Category:Murder ballads]]
[[Category:Child Ballads]]
[[Category:Child Ballads]]
[[Category:Filicide in fiction]]
[[Category:Fiction about filicide]]
[[Category:Roud Folk Song Index songs]]
[[Category:Joan Baez songs]]
[[Category:Joan Baez songs]]
[[Category:Year of song unknown]]
[[Category:Year of song unknown]]

Latest revision as of 08:27, 11 May 2024

"The Cruel Mother" (a.k.a. "The Greenwood Side" or "Greenwood Sidey") (Roud 9, Child 20) is a murder ballad originating in England that has since become popular throughout the wider English-speaking world.[1][2]

According to Roud and Bishop[3]

Widely collected in Britain and Ireland, and in North America, 'The Cruel Mother' has clearly struck a chord with singers over a number of generations. We will never know quite why, of course, but in performance the combination of the matter-of-fact handling of a difficult subject and the repeated rhythmic refrain often creates a stark and hypnotic tale, which is extremely effective.

Synopsis

[edit]

A woman gives birth to one or two illegitimate children (usually sons) in the woods, kills them, and buries them. On her return trip home, she sees a child, or children, playing, and says that if they were hers, she would dress them in various fine garments and otherwise take care of them. The children tell her that when they were hers, she would not dress them so but murdered them. Frequently they say she will be damned for it.

Some variants open with the account that she has fallen in love with her father's clerk.

Variants

[edit]

This ballad exists in a number of variants, in some of which there are verses where the dead children tell the mother she will suffer a number of penances each lasting seven years, e.g. "Seven years to ring a bell / And seven years porter in hell".[4] Those verses properly belong in "The Maid and the Palmer" (Child ballad 21).[5] Variants of "The Cruel Mother" include "Carlisle Hall", "The Rose o Malinde", "Fine Flowers in the Valley", "The Minister's Daughter of New York", and "The Lady From Lee", among others. "Fine Flowers of the Valley" is a Scottish variant. Weela Weela Walya is an Irish schoolyard version.[6] A closely related German ballad exists in many variants: a child comes to a woman's wedding to announce himself her child and that she had murdered three children, the woman says the Devil can carry her off if it is true, and the Devil appears to do so.[7]

Ballad scholar Hyder Rollins listed a broadside print dated 1638, and a fairly complete version was published in London in broadside ballad format as "The Duke's Daughter's Cruelty: Or the Wonderful Apparition of two Infants whom she Murther'd and Buried in a Forrest, for to hide her Shame" sometime between 1684 and 1695.[8]

This ballad was one of 25 traditional works included in Ballads Weird and Wonderful (1912) and illustrated by Vernon Hill.

Recordings

[edit]
Album/Single Performer Year Variant Notes
False True Lovers Shirley Collins 1959 The Cruel Mother
Dear Companion: Bonnie Dobson Bonnie Dobson 1960 The Cruel Mother
The Folk Songs of Britain, Vol. IV: The Child Ballads 1 Thomas Moran 1961 The Cruel Mother Recorded 1954. Although the refrain of this version is that of "The Cruel Mother", the actual verses belong to a different song, Child Ballad no. 21, "The Maid and the Palmer" (aka "The Well Below The Valley")
Four Strong Winds Ian & Sylvia 1964 The Greenwood Side
The Judy Collins Concert Judy Collins 1964 The Cruel Mother
The Long Harvest, Vol. 1 Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger 1967 see note Album contains three versions of The Cruel Mother, one variant called "Down By the Greenwood Sidey-O", and another called "The Lady From Lee".
Ballads Hedy West 1967 The Cruel Mother
Joan Joan Baez 1967 The Greenwood Side
A Beacon from Mars Kaleidoscope 1968 The Greenwood Sidee
The Sweet Primroses Shirley Collins 1970 The Cruel Mother
Landfall Martin Carthy 1972 The Cruel Mother
The Voice of the People Vol. 3 Lizzie Higgins 1988 The Cruel Mother Recorded 1975
Tempted and tried Steeleye Span 1989 The Cruel Mother
Duše mé lásky Asonance 1994 Krutá matka Czech translation
Legacy Old Blind Dogs 1995 The Greenwood Side The track is titled "The Rose and the Lindsey O'."
Ye Shine Whar Ye Stan! Jock Duncan 1996 The Cruel Mother
Live at Newport Ian & Sylvia 1996 The Greenwood Side Recorded live at the Newport Folk Festival, 1963.
Flesh and Blood Maddy Prior 1997 The Cruel Mother
Songs Of Experience Cindy Mangsen 1998 The Cruel Mother
Shantalla Shantalla 2000 Fine flowers in the valley
Greenwood Side Lothlorien 2000 Greenwood Side
A Day Like Today Emily Smith 2002 The Cruel Mother
No Earthly Man Alasdair Roberts 2005 The Cruel Mother
Wolverley Summer of Love 2007 Stuart Estel 2007 The Cruel Mother
To The Ground Kerfuffle 2006 Down By The Greenwood Side
In The Shadow of Mountains Bella Hardy 2009 Cruel Mother Miss Hardy omits 'The' from the title but it is nonetheless a variant of the folk song.
Lady Diamond Bryony Griffith
& Will Hampson
2011 The Lady of York From the singing of Jim Eldon.
Born to wonder EP Louise Jordan 2011 The Cruel Mother
Here's to those we could not save The Imaginary Suitcase 2012 Fine flowers in the valley
Old Light: Songs from my Childhood & Other Gone Worlds Rayna Gellert 2012 Cruel Mother
Revival Bellowhead 2014 Greenwood Side
Fiona Hunter Fiona Hunter 2014 The Cruel Mother
Twice Told Tales 10,000 Maniacs 2015 Greenwood Sidey
Anna & Elizabeth Anna & Elizabeth 2015 Greenwood Sidey
Murmurs Nancy Kerr, Martin Simpson and Andy Cutting 2015 Cruel Mother
Here in the Deep Dave Heumann 2016 Greenwood Side
CYRM ØXN 2023 Cruel Mother

See also

[edit]

References

[edit]
  1. ^ The Ozarks: An American Survival of Primitive Society By Vance Randolph
  2. ^ Francis James Child, English and Scottish Popular Ballads, "The Cruel Mother"
  3. ^ Roud, Steve & Julia Bishop (2012). The New Penguin Book of Folk Songs. Penguin. ISBN 978-0-141-19461-5.
  4. ^ Child, Francis James (1882). The English and Scottish Popular Ballads. Vol. 1. Boston: Houghton, Mifflin. p. 225. Retrieved 18 July 2019.
  5. ^ Child (1882), p. 218
  6. ^ "Weela Weela Walya". Songs of Clare. Clare County Library. Retrieved 11 July 2019.
  7. ^ Child (1882), pp. 219–20
  8. ^ Cazden, Norman, Herbert Haufrechtt, and Norman Studer. Folksongs of the Catskills. Albany: SUNY Press, 1982. 251-252. Print.
[edit]