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== Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2023 ==
==Excessive Tasmania people==
There are excessive names of people in the notable Tasmanian people section. This should be pruned by about 80%, with the entries left for the list article instead. I think we only need the people who will still be famous after 20 years, so most musicians and writers can be cut. What do others think? [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 23:28, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


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== The nicknames aren’t accurate ==
[[Special:Contributions/2604:3D09:A483:1000:990A:62D6:3374:B594|2604:3D09:A483:1000:990A:62D6:3374:B594]] ([[User talk:2604:3D09:A483:1000:990A:62D6:3374:B594|talk]]) 06:37, 20 November 2023 (UTC)


Tasmania does lay at similar latitude to the US/Canada Border. Only a small ismus of which the southern tip terminating in Windsor and the us across the river share a similar latitude
Hey I’ve lived here Since I was born I haven heard of Tasmania ever being called either The Apple Isle or Holiday Isle [[User:Comxeno|Comxeno]] ([[User talk:Comxeno|talk]]) 08:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
: [[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 01:52, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
:Probably because you live there! :-) [http://universityguide.blogspot.com/2004/06/tasmania-holiday-isle.html?m=1 Holiday Isle], [https://www.classicholidays.com.au/articles/the-apple-isle-the-best-of-tasmania/ Apple Isle], and plenty more... [[User:Laterthanyouthink|Laterthanyouthink]] ([[User talk:Laterthanyouthink|talk]]) 10:16, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
:Or because you are young. Tasmania used to export apples to the UK before they joined EU and the government paid orchardists to bulldose apple trees. Before 2020 there used to be many tourists in Tasmania too. (Now there may be a high population of non-working people, but they are not really on holiday.) [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 22:54, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
:'Tasmania: The Apple Isle' and 'Tasmania: The Holiday Isle' were used by Transport Tasmania as the tagline on most Tasmanian numberplates issued in the 1980's and 1990's [[User:CraigRat|CraigRat]] 25 July 2021


== "similar latitude as U.S.-Canada border" ==
== Insularity ==
Hello all


Fully 1,200 miles (1,930 km) of the U.S. - Canada border spans between 54.5 deg. N and 69.5 deg. N. This is the Canadian border with Alaska. Tasmania is nowhere near this far south. The longest part of the U.S. - Canada border is around the 49th parallel north. This is almost 1,400 miles (2,250 km) along the Upper Midwest and the Pacific Northwest.
I have removed some highly speculative and controversial material from this section and replaced it with brief factual and neutral information. Specifically I have removed:


Only part of the U.S. - Canada border in the East is at a similar latitude (relative to hemisphere) as Tasmania. The vast bulk of the border between Canada and the U.S. is not at a corresponding latitude, and is misleading and confusing to millions of Canadians and "Americans." This part of the article needs to be changed to mention eastern U.S. and eastern Canada somehow. Such as, "the same latitude as the U.S.-Canadian border around Toronto and Detroit." That would be more correct and make more sense.
"A talented and diligent hydrographer, Cook quickly surmised the likelihood of a strait. The Admiralty had issued its usual verbal instructions to hide strategically important discoveries that could become security risks, such as off-shore islands from which operations could be mounted by a hostile power.
Consequently, in his journal Cook disguised his discovery with a riddle; and on his chart he drew a curtain across the truncated channel by sketching a false coastline down to an invented Point Hicks. Cook's cartographic fabrication worked and Tasmania's insularity was suppressed for three more decades."


I see a similar thread below but it's not clear whether this was resolved. It's also contradictory saying there is a part of the border at a similar latitude but qualifying it as only a small part. If the author or author knows this, then why not change the article to reflect what is correct? [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C67:5000:A7A:C013:63D2:4A05:C7D0|2600:6C67:5000:A7A:C013:63D2:4A05:C7D0]] ([[User talk:2600:6C67:5000:A7A:C013:63D2:4A05:C7D0|talk]]) 20:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
There is no evidence that Cook discovered Bass Strait but hid his discovery. Cook's relevant journal entry for 19 April 1770 states that it is "doubtful whether they [ie Van Diemen's Land and New Holland] are one land or not." No document has been found indicating that the British Admiralty knew of the existence of a strait between Tasmania and the mainland before Bass's discovery in 1797. It is highly unlikely that the Admiralty would have let Phillip and Vancouver sail to Australia without telling them about Bass Strait if they knew about it. Happy to discuss. --[[User:Aemilius Adolphin|Aemilius Adolphin]] ([[User talk:Aemilius Adolphin|talk]]) 07:33, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
:Sounds like it should be removed altogether! [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 05:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)


== Edit request; Typo in first paragraph ==
== Additions up to snuff? ==
I have been adding to some of the sections, and was just wondering whether it is excessive, or inappropriate for the article. --[[User:Mairremena|Mairremena]] ([[User talk:Mairremena|talk]]) 02:49, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
=== Just wondering (again) ===
...whether there is any way to make the article (beginning) look more "Tasmanian", or identifiable in some sort of pictorial way (without changing the flag...). Perhaps something to do with the state colours? It's just not quite the article to say "have a look at this entire submission, it's special and not any old state with a British flag on it!". (This is just my opinion).
Also, would it perhaps be better if the location map of Tasmania (and by extension the Australian states and territories) were based on a globe rather than a flat projection? --[[User:Mairremena|Mairremena]] ([[User talk:Mairremena|talk]]) 00:18, 4 September 2021 (UTC)


Last sentence: "...lowest proportion of it residents living within its capital city." Change "it" to "its". [[User:AverageChapstick|AverageChapstick]] ([[User talk:AverageChapstick|talk]]) 21:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
I added a scarf with the state colours at the bottom of the infobox. I'm not sure how intrusive that is. What are some areas in this article that require additions, and what would help increase the quality of the article enough to rise (in Wikipedia quality)? --[[User:Mairremena|Mairremena]] ([[User talk:Mairremena|talk]]) 02:22, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
:Done. Thanks for picking this up. [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 22:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
== Edit request on Demography ==

″Tasmania's population is more homogeneous than that of other states of Australia, with most of its population being of British (primarily English) descent.[125]″

Can you change this to "with most of its population being of British (primarily English) and Irish descent"? The Irish make up a significant grouping compared to other settlers (and 19th century convicts), and don't get any much mention elsewhere.

Latest revision as of 18:28, 8 June 2024

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2023

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2604:3D09:A483:1000:990A:62D6:3374:B594 (talk) 06:37, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tasmania does lay at similar latitude to the US/Canada Border. Only a small ismus of which the southern tip terminating in Windsor and the us across the river share a similar latitude

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. RudolfRed (talk) 01:52, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"similar latitude as U.S.-Canada border"

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Fully 1,200 miles (1,930 km) of the U.S. - Canada border spans between 54.5 deg. N and 69.5 deg. N. This is the Canadian border with Alaska. Tasmania is nowhere near this far south. The longest part of the U.S. - Canada border is around the 49th parallel north. This is almost 1,400 miles (2,250 km) along the Upper Midwest and the Pacific Northwest.

Only part of the U.S. - Canada border in the East is at a similar latitude (relative to hemisphere) as Tasmania. The vast bulk of the border between Canada and the U.S. is not at a corresponding latitude, and is misleading and confusing to millions of Canadians and "Americans." This part of the article needs to be changed to mention eastern U.S. and eastern Canada somehow. Such as, "the same latitude as the U.S.-Canadian border around Toronto and Detroit." That would be more correct and make more sense.

I see a similar thread below but it's not clear whether this was resolved. It's also contradictory saying there is a part of the border at a similar latitude but qualifying it as only a small part. If the author or author knows this, then why not change the article to reflect what is correct? 2600:6C67:5000:A7A:C013:63D2:4A05:C7D0 (talk) 20:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like it should be removed altogether! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request; Typo in first paragraph

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Last sentence: "...lowest proportion of it residents living within its capital city." Change "it" to "its". AverageChapstick (talk) 21:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for picking this up. HiLo48 (talk) 22:29, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on Demography

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″Tasmania's population is more homogeneous than that of other states of Australia, with most of its population being of British (primarily English) descent.[125]″

Can you change this to "with most of its population being of British (primarily English) and Irish descent"? The Irish make up a significant grouping compared to other settlers (and 19th century convicts), and don't get any much mention elsewhere.

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