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==Goodyear tire box== |
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== Gian Paolo Dallara == |
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There are several Tire manufacturer box templates (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Tire_manufacturer_templates CATEGORY]), for use in race box scores, etc. For Indy 500 and Indy car race box scores (example [[1995 Indianapolis 500]]), largely it's Firestone and Goodyear that are used. Here are those two: |
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{{Firestone}} |
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I'm proposing that [[Gian Paolo Dallara]] be moved to [[Giampaolo Dallara]]. Interested editors are welcome to contribute to [[Talk:Gian Paolo Dallara#Requested move 21 June 2023|the existing discussion]]. [[User:DH85868993|DH85868993]] ([[User talk:DH85868993|talk]]) 11:48, 21 June 2023 (UTC) |
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{{Goodyear}} |
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== 2020 Firestone Grand Prix of St. Petersburg == |
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Firestone seems fine, as the colors match the company's red & white color scheme. But is there a reason why Goodyear is depicted as white on gold? I could not find discussion from when it was made. Whether it was created for a reason, or made in error. For years, Goodyear has utilized a yellow on blue logo. For a time there was a white/blue variation, as well as a black/silver variation. But the white/gold seems out of place. I can't find a company logo of white/gold as depicted. I suggest creating a yellow/blue variation, at least for use in U.S.-based Indy 500 and IndyCar articles. Noting that changing the original would probably be a bad idea because it would sweep through countless articles (F1, etc.) |
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Seeing that the [[Wikipedia:To-do list|to-do list]] was requesting the creation of [[2020 IndyCar Series|2020]] races, I noticed that the article for the 2020 St. Pete GP needed to be created, so I created a [[Draft:2020 Firestone Grand Prix of St. Petersburg|draft]] while I worked on it. Now that I finished it, I've now seen that there was already a redirect page with the race name in the mainspace. Should, I move the information from the draft to the mainspace article, remove the redirect link & request the deletion of the draft article? - [[User:HotMAN0199|HotMAN0199]] ([[User talk:HotMAN0199|talk]]) 22:29, 31 August 2023 (UTC) |
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Suggestion here: |
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== Let's show our appreciation == |
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'''[[Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company|<span style="padding:1px 3px; color:yellow; background-color:blue;">G</span>]]''' |
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Let's show our appreciation to @[[User:Thenascarman|Thenascarman]], who has just finished creating reports for the USAC/CART era [[California 500 (IndyCar)|California 500]]s, which follow the articles they have created for the [[Michigan 500|Michigan]] and [[Pocono 500 (IndyCar)|Pocono]] 500-mile races. Thanks to their dedication, this WP has achieved a major goal of having articles for all 500-mile races run during the USAC/CART eras! |
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A yellow/blue box would match also the existing "tire participation charts" used on many Indy 500 race articles |
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== Color Code for rankings in race results overview == |
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!colspan=2|[[Tire]] participation chart |
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!Supplier |
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!No. of starters |
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|align="center" style="background:blue;"|'''[[Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company|<span style="color:yellow;">Goodyear</span>]]''' ||align="center"| '''25''' <nowiki>*</nowiki> |
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|align="center" style="background:red;"|'''[[Firestone Tire and Rubber Company|<span style="color:white;">Firestone</span>]]''' ||align="center"| '''8''' |
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|colspan=2 align=center|<nowiki>*</nowiki> – ''<small>Denotes race winner</small>'' |
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[[User:Doctorindy|'''Doctorindy''']]↔[[User talk:Doctorindy|Talk]] 19:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:Yellow on white is one of the scheme coulours of their logos and the one used in Good Year article on WP. The label "Good Year" and "Eagle" was as I can remember always either yellow or white against the black tire, never blue. Maybe this is why. [[User:Rpo.castro|Rpo.castro]] ([[User talk:Rpo.castro|talk]]) 22:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Proposed change to Template:Infobox Grand Prix race report == |
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::Looking at the template's history, [[User:SpeedKing]] (who last edited in 2022) originally created the template as black text on a gold background. Twelve minutes later, [[User:Fred Bradstadt]] (who last edited in 2021) changed it to white text with the edit summary of "A bit smaller, and white text: Looks now more like <nowiki>{{Michelin}} and {{Bridgestone}}</nowiki>". My ''guess'' is that [[User:SpeedKing]] just picked an arbitrary colour. I would have no objection to it being changed to yellow on blue (providing it satisfies [[MOS:CONTRAST]]). I think you could change the original template; I suspect most people wouldn't even notice the change. And/or you could advertise this discussion at [[WP:MOTORSPORT]]. [[User:DH85868993|DH85868993]] ([[User talk:DH85868993|talk]]) 02:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
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An editor has proposed a change to [[Template:Infobox Grand Prix race report]]. Interested editors are welcome to contribute to [[Template_talk:Infobox_Grand_Prix_race_report#Indianapolis_500|the existing discussion]]. It's relevant to this WikiProject because that infobox is used in the Indianapolis 500 articles from [[1950 Indianapolis 500|1950]] to [[1960 Indianapolis 500|1960]], when the race was a round of the World Drivers' Championship. [[User:DH85868993|DH85868993]] ([[User talk:DH85868993|talk]]) 00:07, 12 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Looking and researching the other tire template boxes, it appears that every single one utilizes a color combination that reflects the company's logo (the official company logo, not necessarily the color painted on the black tires). Goodyear is the lone exception. I think it should be yellow-on-blue to fall in line with the theme of the other templates. [[User:Doctorindy|'''Doctorindy''']]↔[[User talk:Doctorindy|Talk]] 13:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::::With no apparent objections, change has been made to the original template. [[User:Doctorindy|'''Doctorindy''']]↔[[User talk:Doctorindy|Talk]] 18:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Box score consistency == |
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A revamping of the [[Indianapolis 500]] box scores (on the individual race articles) was done earlier this year, refreshing them a bit, attempting to make them more consistent. One aspect that needs some input is under the "Status" column. Typically cars that are on the lead lap are listed as +00.000 seconds. Cars that dropped out list the reason for dropping out ("Crash", "Engine", etc.). But cars that are running at the finish (but not on the lead lap) are a mixed bag. Some say "Running". Some say "Flagged". Some say for example -1 Lap, but some say +1 Lap. |
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I'd like to see some consistency with the latter situation (cars running at the finish but not on the lead lap). I suggest it be the -1 Lap version. As the car is a ''lap down'', they're minus a lap (or more) to the leader. I've never really understood the +1 Lap way of writing it, because the car is not completing more laps that the winner, they completed less. For lead lap cars, it does makes common sense to use +00.000 seconds, because they're completing the same number of laps, needing more time to do so. But since the lapped cars don't go the distance, it should clearly indicate they did less. |
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Two existing examples, one with "-", one with "+" |
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*[[1987 Indianapolis 500]] |
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*[[2024 Indianapolis 500]] |
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The remaining box scores that simply say "Running" or "Flagged" (there are several) need to eventually be upgraded to show +00.00 and laps down - after a consensus is made. [[User:Doctorindy|'''Doctorindy''']]↔[[User talk:Doctorindy|Talk]] 14:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Goodyear tire box
There are several Tire manufacturer box templates (see CATEGORY), for use in race box scores, etc. For Indy 500 and Indy car race box scores (example 1995 Indianapolis 500), largely it's Firestone and Goodyear that are used. Here are those two:
Firestone seems fine, as the colors match the company's red & white color scheme. But is there a reason why Goodyear is depicted as white on gold? I could not find discussion from when it was made. Whether it was created for a reason, or made in error. For years, Goodyear has utilized a yellow on blue logo. For a time there was a white/blue variation, as well as a black/silver variation. But the white/gold seems out of place. I can't find a company logo of white/gold as depicted. I suggest creating a yellow/blue variation, at least for use in U.S.-based Indy 500 and IndyCar articles. Noting that changing the original would probably be a bad idea because it would sweep through countless articles (F1, etc.)
Suggestion here:
A yellow/blue box would match also the existing "tire participation charts" used on many Indy 500 race articles
Tire participation chart | |
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Supplier | No. of starters |
Goodyear | 25 * |
Firestone | 8 |
* – Denotes race winner |
Doctorindy↔Talk 19:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yellow on white is one of the scheme coulours of their logos and the one used in Good Year article on WP. The label "Good Year" and "Eagle" was as I can remember always either yellow or white against the black tire, never blue. Maybe this is why. Rpo.castro (talk) 22:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- I feel the yellow on blue is an improvement. RegalZ8790 (talk) 01:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at the template's history, User:SpeedKing (who last edited in 2022) originally created the template as black text on a gold background. Twelve minutes later, User:Fred Bradstadt (who last edited in 2021) changed it to white text with the edit summary of "A bit smaller, and white text: Looks now more like {{Michelin}} and {{Bridgestone}}". My guess is that User:SpeedKing just picked an arbitrary colour. I would have no objection to it being changed to yellow on blue (providing it satisfies MOS:CONTRAST). I think you could change the original template; I suspect most people wouldn't even notice the change. And/or you could advertise this discussion at WP:MOTORSPORT. DH85868993 (talk) 02:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looking and researching the other tire template boxes, it appears that every single one utilizes a color combination that reflects the company's logo (the official company logo, not necessarily the color painted on the black tires). Goodyear is the lone exception. I think it should be yellow-on-blue to fall in line with the theme of the other templates. Doctorindy↔Talk 13:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- With no apparent objections, change has been made to the original template. Doctorindy↔Talk 18:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looking and researching the other tire template boxes, it appears that every single one utilizes a color combination that reflects the company's logo (the official company logo, not necessarily the color painted on the black tires). Goodyear is the lone exception. I think it should be yellow-on-blue to fall in line with the theme of the other templates. Doctorindy↔Talk 13:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at the template's history, User:SpeedKing (who last edited in 2022) originally created the template as black text on a gold background. Twelve minutes later, User:Fred Bradstadt (who last edited in 2021) changed it to white text with the edit summary of "A bit smaller, and white text: Looks now more like {{Michelin}} and {{Bridgestone}}". My guess is that User:SpeedKing just picked an arbitrary colour. I would have no objection to it being changed to yellow on blue (providing it satisfies MOS:CONTRAST). I think you could change the original template; I suspect most people wouldn't even notice the change. And/or you could advertise this discussion at WP:MOTORSPORT. DH85868993 (talk) 02:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
"Formula Indy" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"F-Indy" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect F-Indy has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 20 § F-Indy until a consensus is reached. 65.92.244.237 (talk) 20:01, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Box score consistency
A revamping of the Indianapolis 500 box scores (on the individual race articles) was done earlier this year, refreshing them a bit, attempting to make them more consistent. One aspect that needs some input is under the "Status" column. Typically cars that are on the lead lap are listed as +00.000 seconds. Cars that dropped out list the reason for dropping out ("Crash", "Engine", etc.). But cars that are running at the finish (but not on the lead lap) are a mixed bag. Some say "Running". Some say "Flagged". Some say for example -1 Lap, but some say +1 Lap.
I'd like to see some consistency with the latter situation (cars running at the finish but not on the lead lap). I suggest it be the -1 Lap version. As the car is a lap down, they're minus a lap (or more) to the leader. I've never really understood the +1 Lap way of writing it, because the car is not completing more laps that the winner, they completed less. For lead lap cars, it does makes common sense to use +00.000 seconds, because they're completing the same number of laps, needing more time to do so. But since the lapped cars don't go the distance, it should clearly indicate they did less.
Two existing examples, one with "-", one with "+"
The remaining box scores that simply say "Running" or "Flagged" (there are several) need to eventually be upgraded to show +00.00 and laps down - after a consensus is made. Doctorindy↔Talk 14:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)