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== Infographics == |
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[[File:Sciences humaines.svg|40px]] This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available [[Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Columbia_University/Order_and_Violence_(Spring_2016)|on the course page]]. Student editor(s): [[User:Ianmckeachie|Ianmckeachie]]. Peer reviewers: [[User:Crcarey|Crcarey]], [[User:Amannavani|Amannavani]]. |
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Where does the infographic originate? I have seen it reproduced on several websites but would like to know its origin for citation purposes. [[Special:Contributions/81.158.47.79|81.158.47.79]] ([[User talk:81.158.47.79|talk]]) 16:06, 16 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:From what I see they were made for Wikipedia, however, you can see the original data by clicking on the graphic then clicking on the more details button at the bottom right, below the image, then, once the more detailed information pops up scroll down and there should be the links to the sources. [[User:V. L. Mastikosa|V. L. Mastikosa]] ([[User talk:V. L. Mastikosa|talk]]) 03:59, 7 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== Counter-revolution and civil wars - edits == |
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I noticed errors and confusing writing in this section and I edited to address this and improve the clarity of the content. -- e.g., one cited source was named but not identified as an expert, or the context of his statements (an op-ed). Also, a second reference instance misspelled his name ('Kapalan', instead of Kabalan). [[User:Dano67|Dano67]] ([[User talk:Dano67|talk]]) 10:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== In his thesis, Webeaucracy: The Collaborative Revolution == |
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This link is dead. I am not sure how to mark it. [[User:Syakovlev13|Syakovlev13]] ([[User talk:Syakovlev13|talk]]) 19:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Corruption as a cause of the Arab Spring == |
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== etymology == |
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@[[User:Bobfrombrockley|Bobfrombrockley]]: do you think that [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/14/world/middleeast/arab-spring-mideast-autocrats.html this analysis piece] in the NYT would be a suitable replacement for Counterpunch? A quick search also found [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56000950 this piece] on the BBC. Neither mention Wikileaks and I don't feel that the article needs to unless other RSs explicitly draw the connection. Best, [[User:Wham2001|Wham2001]] ([[User talk:Wham2001|talk]]) 17:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC) |
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:{{u|Wham2001}} Those both looks excellent. Quick search found this possibly for Wikileaks: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/13/amnesty-international-wikileaks-arab-spring ? [[User:Bobfrombrockley|BobFromBrockley]] ([[User talk:Bobfrombrockley|talk]]) 17:18, 2 January 2022 (UTC) |
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::Yes, that looks good to me. It could be attributed to AI, though I don't have a strong feeling as to whether that's necessary. Best, [[User:Wham2001|Wham2001]] ([[User talk:Wham2001|talk]]) 17:46, 2 January 2022 (UTC) |
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I thought it was important to reflect the debated aspect of the term “Arab Spring” and its usage, reflecting the fact that it is a debated terminology amongst some scholars and observers. I edited the etymology section by merging the below to the existing section: |
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== major events order == |
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The denomination “Arab Spring” is contested by some scholars and observers claiming that the term is problematic for several reasons. First, it was coined by Western commentators, not those involved in the events. Protestors instead described their own political actions as "uprising" (intifada), Arab "awakening" (sahwa) or Arab renaissance (nahda), using expressions like ''al-marar al-Arabi'' (the Arab bitterness), ''karama'' (dignity) and ''thawra'' (revolution). 1 4 Some authors argue that western governments, scholars and media used the term to minimise people’s revolutionary aims and discourse. 2 3 4 The term “Spring” illustrates this problematic as it follows the western example of the [[Revolutions of 1848]] referred to as “Spring of Nations”, which signifies an expectation that the events would replicate the example of democratic revolutions set by the West. 1 4 The term “Arab” is problematic as well as it homogenises the region’s cultural specificities and oversimplifies the nature of its diverse histories and cultures.1 [[User:Curiouschanter|Curiouschanter]] ([[User talk:Curiouschanter|talk]]) 00:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC) |
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That should be chronological, not alphabetical. Tunisia should be the first thing listed IMO. Any objections to modifying the order? <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span>]]''' - 02:33, 29 January 2022 (UTC)</small> |
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:My order would Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Bahrain, UAE and Saudi (Saudi should be expanded from [[2011–2012 Saudi Arabian protests]]). <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span>]]''' - 02:36, 29 January 2022 (UTC)</small> |
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[edit]Where does the infographic originate? I have seen it reproduced on several websites but would like to know its origin for citation purposes. 81.158.47.79 (talk) 16:06, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- From what I see they were made for Wikipedia, however, you can see the original data by clicking on the graphic then clicking on the more details button at the bottom right, below the image, then, once the more detailed information pops up scroll down and there should be the links to the sources. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 03:59, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Counter-revolution and civil wars - edits
[edit]I noticed errors and confusing writing in this section and I edited to address this and improve the clarity of the content. -- e.g., one cited source was named but not identified as an expert, or the context of his statements (an op-ed). Also, a second reference instance misspelled his name ('Kapalan', instead of Kabalan). Dano67 (talk) 10:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
In his thesis, Webeaucracy: The Collaborative Revolution
[edit]This link is dead. I am not sure how to mark it. Syakovlev13 (talk) 19:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
etymology
[edit]I thought it was important to reflect the debated aspect of the term “Arab Spring” and its usage, reflecting the fact that it is a debated terminology amongst some scholars and observers. I edited the etymology section by merging the below to the existing section:
The denomination “Arab Spring” is contested by some scholars and observers claiming that the term is problematic for several reasons. First, it was coined by Western commentators, not those involved in the events. Protestors instead described their own political actions as "uprising" (intifada), Arab "awakening" (sahwa) or Arab renaissance (nahda), using expressions like al-marar al-Arabi (the Arab bitterness), karama (dignity) and thawra (revolution). 1 4 Some authors argue that western governments, scholars and media used the term to minimise people’s revolutionary aims and discourse. 2 3 4 The term “Spring” illustrates this problematic as it follows the western example of the Revolutions of 1848 referred to as “Spring of Nations”, which signifies an expectation that the events would replicate the example of democratic revolutions set by the West. 1 4 The term “Arab” is problematic as well as it homogenises the region’s cultural specificities and oversimplifies the nature of its diverse histories and cultures.1 Curiouschanter (talk) 00:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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