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The citation is in: "[[Auction Kings]]" [http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/auction-kings/episode-guide.html Season 3, Episode 3, first aired May 2nd, 2012.] Part of the intro to the article (zoomed in on a computer tablet) was used to help verify partial authenticity of a document purportedly signed by John Quincy Adams. |
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== Cite Error; Reference 76. == |
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I'd like to propose a change in photographs: the partial citation at the bottom is of a colorized photograph of JQA that would make a more inspired visual (in my opinion). I think the candid setting and the quality of the colorization takes you back to 1840; it enriches the article. If there's a representational issue with using digitally or otherwise artificially colorized images than using "primary sources" then I'd just like to point out that the current daguerrotype displayed is visibly penciled in. Between the two images I think the colorized one is more appropriate. |
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<ref>{{cite web |last1=Folli |first1=Lorenzo |url=https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/av5db4q_700bwp.webp |website=9gag.com}}</ref> <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:CorbyBoog|CorbyBoog]] ([[User talk:CorbyBoog#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CorbyBoog|contribs]]) 16:37, 6 March 2022 (UTC)</small> |
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:I'm sorry, but I do not believe it is possible, as the original owner of the image (The one who colorized the photo) has not made it available for Creative Commons on Wikimedia Commons, or has not made it Public Domain. All photos on Wikipedia are from Wikimedia Commons and all photos on Wikimedia are either licensed for use on Wikimedia by the original creator, or Public Domain for their respective reason. If you believe otherwise, please respond to this reply. |
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:Cya!-MrNoobNub [[User:MrNoobNub2|MrNoobNub2]] ([[User talk:MrNoobNub2|talk]]) 19:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Photo captions == |
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Several of the photo captions in the article give his name as “Quincy Adams”, implying that he had a double surname, when in fact his surname was just Adams [[User:Someonefromohio|Someonefromohio]] ([[User talk:Someonefromohio|talk]]) 19:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:I think that was a convention at the time to distinguish him from his father. [[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 20:35, 5 May 2022 (UTC) |
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::But I don’t think it’s necessary now. If the article is about John Quincy Adams, it can reasonably be inferred that “Adams” is referring to John Quincy, and besides, the article text refers to him as Adams. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Someonefromohio|Someonefromohio]] ([[User talk:Someonefromohio#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Someonefromohio|contribs]]) 20:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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If I knew how I'd fix it myself. |
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Can someone take a look at reference #76? If I try to fix it I'm liable to break the references even further. Thanks a bunch! -- [[User:Sleyece|Sleyece]] ([[User talk:Sleyece|talk]]) 12:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC) |
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I don't know where the error is. [[User:Deisenbe|deisenbe]] ([[User talk:Deisenbe|talk]]) 09:46, 21 November 2022 (UTC) |
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So yesterday I changed the Wikipedia picture of John Quincy Adams from a black and white photograph of Adams to a color painting. The reason for this change was because the photograph of John Quincy Adams was taken after he was president, while the painting was made while he was president. |
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--[[User:Helloguyswhatisup|Helloguyswhatisup]] ([[User talk:Helloguyswhatisup|talk]]) 20:53, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2023 == |
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EDIT: My edit was recently reversed, why? |
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--[[User:Helloguyswhatisup|Helloguyswhatisup]] ([[User talk:Helloguyswhatisup|talk]]) 16:40, 30 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:Probably because: #1) Its is the article [[wp:Lede|LEDE]] graphic and those kinds of changes should usually be discussed here first; and #2) Photos are prioritized over paintings in the encyclopedia. You can start such a discussion here, but if you check the archives above, you'll see this has been discussed before, and it's very probable that discussion still wouldn't result in an [[wp:IAR|IAR]] situation here. Good luck, [[User:GenQuest|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow:brown 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;"><i>G</i>en<i>Q</i>uest</span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:GenQuest|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow:brown 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;">"scribble"</span>]]</sup></small> 03:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC) |
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The painting of John Quincy Adams I used may have actually been from after John Quincy Adams left office, as the Wikimedia Commons page for that painting put the date as "circa 1820s-1830s", so does anybody know of a painting that was made between 1825 and 1829? --[[User:Helloguyswhatisup|Helloguyswhatisup]] ([[User talk:Helloguyswhatisup|talk]]) 22:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC) |
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In mid-November 1846, the 79-year-old former president suffered a stroke that left him partially paralyzed. [[User:Harrison McGray|Harrison McGray]] ([[User talk:Harrison McGray|talk]]) 18:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> '''<span style="border-radius:6px;padding:1px 5px;background:#30a;">[[User:WanderingMorpheme|<span style="color:#bb87ff">Wandering</span>]][[User talk:WanderingMorpheme|<span style="color:#fcba03">Morpheme</span>]]</span>''' 18:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|Harrison McGray|WanderingMorpheme}} The article currently states that he had a stroke in mid-November 1846 at the age of <b>78</b>. As he was born in July 1767 he would indeed be <b>79</b>. However, the "mid-November" appeared in [[Special:Diff/957463218|this edit from May 2020]], without a source. [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-dramatic-death-of-a-former-president-at-the-u-s-capitol PBS] says 78 with no mention of the month, and so does [https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/john-quincy-adams-slaverys-enemy-til-end/ The New England Historical Society]. I propose that we drop the month. [[User:Favonian|Favonian]] ([[User talk:Favonian|talk]]) 18:56, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Yeah that proposal sounds good to me, thank you for looking out. '''<span style="border-radius:6px;padding:1px 5px;background:#30a;">[[User:WanderingMorpheme|<span style="color:#bb87ff">Wandering</span>]][[User talk:WanderingMorpheme|<span style="color:#fcba03">Morpheme</span>]]</span>''' 19:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC) |
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Changin' Adams' Wikipedia Picture: Reboot
[edit]I'd like to propose a change in photographs: the partial citation at the bottom is of a colorized photograph of JQA that would make a more inspired visual (in my opinion). I think the candid setting and the quality of the colorization takes you back to 1840; it enriches the article. If there's a representational issue with using digitally or otherwise artificially colorized images than using "primary sources" then I'd just like to point out that the current daguerrotype displayed is visibly penciled in. Between the two images I think the colorized one is more appropriate.
[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorbyBoog (talk • contribs) 16:37, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I do not believe it is possible, as the original owner of the image (The one who colorized the photo) has not made it available for Creative Commons on Wikimedia Commons, or has not made it Public Domain. All photos on Wikipedia are from Wikimedia Commons and all photos on Wikimedia are either licensed for use on Wikimedia by the original creator, or Public Domain for their respective reason. If you believe otherwise, please respond to this reply.
- Cya!-MrNoobNub MrNoobNub2 (talk) 19:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Several of the photo captions in the article give his name as “Quincy Adams”, implying that he had a double surname, when in fact his surname was just Adams Someonefromohio (talk) 19:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think that was a convention at the time to distinguish him from his father. Peaceray (talk) 20:35, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- But I don’t think it’s necessary now. If the article is about John Quincy Adams, it can reasonably be inferred that “Adams” is referring to John Quincy, and besides, the article text refers to him as Adams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Someonefromohio (talk • contribs) 20:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]If I knew how I'd fix it myself.
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I don't know where the error is. deisenbe (talk) 09:46, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
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In mid-November 1846, the 79-year-old former president suffered a stroke that left him partially paralyzed. Harrison McGray (talk) 18:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. WanderingMorpheme 18:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Harrison McGray and WanderingMorpheme: The article currently states that he had a stroke in mid-November 1846 at the age of 78. As he was born in July 1767 he would indeed be 79. However, the "mid-November" appeared in this edit from May 2020, without a source. PBS says 78 with no mention of the month, and so does The New England Historical Society. I propose that we drop the month. Favonian (talk) 18:56, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah that proposal sounds good to me, thank you for looking out. WanderingMorpheme 19:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Harrison McGray and WanderingMorpheme: The article currently states that he had a stroke in mid-November 1846 at the age of 78. As he was born in July 1767 he would indeed be 79. However, the "mid-November" appeared in this edit from May 2020, without a source. PBS says 78 with no mention of the month, and so does The New England Historical Society. I propose that we drop the month. Favonian (talk) 18:56, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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