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Changin' Adams' Wikipedia Picture: Reboot

I'd like to propose a change in photographs: the partial citation at the bottom is of a colorized photograph of JQA that would make a more inspired visual (in my opinion). I think the candid setting and the quality of the colorization takes you back to 1840; it enriches the article. If there's a representational issue with using digitally or otherwise artificially colorized images than using "primary sources" then I'd just like to point out that the current daguerrotype displayed is visibly penciled in. Between the two images I think the colorized one is more appropriate.

^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorbyBoog (talk • contribs) 16:37, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I do not believe it is possible, as the original owner of the image (The one who colorized the photo) has not made it available for Creative Commons on Wikimedia Commons, or has not made it Public Domain. All photos on Wikipedia are from Wikimedia Commons and all photos on Wikimedia are either licensed for use on Wikimedia by the original creator, or Public Domain for their respective reason. If you believe otherwise, please respond to this reply.

Cya!-MrNoobNub MrNoobNub2 (talk) 19:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Folli, Lorenzo. 9gag.com https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/av5db4q_700bwp.webp. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Photo captions

Several of the photo captions in the article give his name as “Quincy Adams”, implying that he had a double surname, when in fact his surname was just Adams Someonefromohio (talk) 19:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think that was a convention at the time to distinguish him from his father. Peaceray (talk) 20:35, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But I don’t think it’s necessary now. If the article is about John Quincy Adams, it can reasonably be inferred that “Adams” is referring to John Quincy, and besides, the article text refers to him as Adams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Someonefromohio (talk • contribs) 20:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Error needing correction

If I knew how I'd fix it myself.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/03fxR-SYufGvlNLcSw5DRgXyg

I don't know where the error is. deisenbe (talk) 09:46, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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In mid-November 1846, the 79-year-old former president suffered a stroke that left him partially paralyzed. Harrison McGray (talk) 18:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Wandering Morpheme 18:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrison McGray and WanderingMorpheme: The article currently states that he had a stroke in mid-November 1846 at the age of 78. As he was born in July 1767 he would indeed be 79. However, the "mid-November" appeared in this edit from May 2020, without a source. PBS says 78 with no mention of the month, and so does The New England Historical Society. I propose that we drop the month. Favonian (talk) 18:56, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that proposal sounds good to me, thank you for looking out. Wandering Morpheme 19:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Folli, Lorenzo. 9gag.com https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/av5db4q_700bwp.webp. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

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-== IQ going back to the article originally referenced. ==
-http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jcampbel/documents/SimontonPresIQ2006.pdf
-of 301 geniuses (n = 8). Actually, there were four estimates for each president. First, IQs were calculated for two periods of biographical data, the first from birth to age 17 and the second from age 18 to age 26. These were identified by Cox as IQ I and IQ II. Second, the raw IQ scores for each of these periods were corrected for measurement error (see Cox, 1926, pp. 82-83, for the specific formula). This statistical correction for attenuation was deemed necessary because some biogra- phies had more adequate information than did others. Hence, each period has both uncorrected (U) and '''corrected''' (C) IQ scores. The outcome is four IQ scores: I-U, I-C, II-U, and '''II-C.''' (515)
-At this time, the article has him listed at 165. It seems to be that we should consider the corrected estimate as the most accurate; that is, unless there is any disagreement to this particular methodology. At the very least, the range seems to begin at 165 and end at 175, so it might be worthwhile to adjust this to acknowledge the range at the very least.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/1.64.88.233|1.64.88.233]] ([[User talk:1.64.88.233#top|talk]]) 09:04, 8 June 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-:Trying to assign an IQ value to someone who never took a test designated for such, is highly [[wp:Speculation|speculative]] and shouldn't even be in the article, per [[wp:Synthesis|SYNTHESIS]], [[wp:OR|OR]], and probably [[wp:CRYSTAL|CRYSTAL]] at best, and is certainly [[wp:Fringe|FRINGE]] science.  Regards,  [[User:GenQuest|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow:brown 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;">GenQuest</span>]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:GenQuest|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow:brown 0.1em 0.2em 0.1em;">"Talk to Me"</span>]]</sup></small> 06:36, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
+== Changin' Adams' Wikipedia Picture: Reboot ==
-== Bunker Hill and the young Adams ==
+I'd like to propose a change in photographs: the partial citation at the bottom is of a colorized photograph of JQA that would make a more inspired visual (in my opinion). I think the candid setting and the quality of the colorization takes you back to 1840; it enriches the article. If there's a representational issue with using digitally or otherwise artificially colorized images than using "primary sources" then I'd just like to point out that the current daguerrotype displayed is visibly penciled in. Between the two images I think the colorized one is more appropriate.
+<ref>{{cite web |last1=Folli |first1=Lorenzo |url=https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/av5db4q_700bwp.webp |website=9gag.com}}</ref> <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:CorbyBoog|CorbyBoog]] ([[User talk:CorbyBoog#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CorbyBoog|contribs]]) 16:37, 6 March 2022 (UTC)</small>
-May we insert a comment concerning Adams and his mother Abigail witnessing the Battle of Bunker Hill? The event had a great impact on Adams which he wrote about later in his life.
+:I'm sorry, but I do not believe it is possible, as the original owner of the image (The one who colorized the photo) has not made it available for Creative Commons on Wikimedia Commons, or has not made it Public Domain. All photos on Wikipedia are from Wikimedia Commons and all photos on Wikimedia are either licensed for use on Wikimedia by the original creator, or Public Domain for their respective reason. If you believe otherwise, please respond to this reply.
-'''Proposed addition''': "At the age of eight, Adams, in the company of his mother Abigail, witnessed the [[Battle of Bunker Hill]], a traumatizing experience that made a deep impression lasting into his final years."
+:Cya!-MrNoobNub [[User:MrNoobNub2|MrNoobNub2]] ([[User talk:MrNoobNub2|talk]]) 19:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
+{{reflist-talk}}
-Nathaniel Philbrick: "From Seventy-one years after that day, in the jittery script of an old man, John Quincy Adams described the terrifying afternoon when he and his mother watched the battle from a hill beside their home in Braintree: “I saw with my own eyes those fires, and heard Britannia’s thunders in the Battle of Bunker’s hill and witnessed the tears of my mother and mingled with them my own.” They feared, he recounted, that the British troops might at any moment march out of Boston and “butcher them in cold blood” or take them as hostages and drag them back into the besieged city. But what he remembered most about the battle was the hopeless sense of sorrow that he and his mother felt when they learned that their family physician, Dr. Joseph Warren, had been killed.
+== Photo captions ==
-Warren had saved John Quincy Adams’s badly fractured forefinger from amputation, and the death of this “beloved physician” was a terrible blow to a boy whose father’s mounting responsibilities required that he spend months away from home. Even after John Quincy Adams had grown into adulthood and become a public figure, he refused to attend all anniversary celebrations of the Battle of Bunker Hill..."
+Several of the photo captions in the article give his name as “Quincy Adams”, implying that he had a double surname, when in fact his surname was just Adams [[User:Someonefromohio|Someonefromohio]] ([[User talk:Someonefromohio|talk]]) 19:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
+:I think that was a convention at the time to distinguish him from his father. [[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 20:35, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
-https://www.penguin.com/ajax/books/excerpt/9781101622704
+::But I don’t think it’s necessary now. If the article is about John Quincy Adams, it can reasonably be inferred that “Adams” is referring to John Quincy, and besides, the article text refers to him as Adams.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Someonefromohio|Someonefromohio]] ([[User talk:Someonefromohio#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Someonefromohio|contribs]]) 20:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-Bunker Hill: a City, a Siege, a Revolution. New York: Viking, 2013. ISBN 0-670-02544-5 OCLC 818953755
-== Cite Error; Reference 76. ==
+== Error needing correction ==
+If I knew how I'd fix it myself.
+https://share.icloud.com/photos/03fxR-SYufGvlNLcSw5DRgXyg
-Can someone take a look at reference #76? If I try to fix it I'm liable to break the references even further. Thanks a bunch! -- [[User:Sleyece|Sleyece]] ([[User talk:Sleyece|talk]]) 12:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
+I don't know where the error is. [[User:Deisenbe|deisenbe]] ([[User talk:Deisenbe|talk]]) 09:46, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
-== Changing Adams' Wikipedia picture ==
+== Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2023 ==
-So yesterday I changed the Wikipedia picture of John Quincy Adams from a black and white photograph of Adams to a color painting. The reason for this change was because the photograph of John Quincy Adams was taken after he was president, while the painting was made while he was president.
---[[User:Helloguyswhatisup|Helloguyswhatisup]] ([[User talk:Helloguyswhatisup|talk]]) 20:53, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
+{{edit semi-protected|John Quincy Adams|answered=yes}}
-EDIT: My edit was recently reversed, why?
---[[User:Helloguyswhatisup|Helloguyswhatisup]] ([[User talk:Helloguyswhatisup|talk]]) 16:40, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
+In mid-November 1846, the 79-year-old former president suffered a stroke that left him partially paralyzed. [[User:Harrison McGray|Harrison McGray]] ([[User talk:Harrison McGray|talk]]) 18:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
+:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> '''<span style="border-radius:6px;padding:1px 5px;background:#30a;">[[User:WanderingMorpheme|<span style="color:#bb87ff">Wandering</span>]][[User talk:WanderingMorpheme|<span style="color:#fcba03">Morpheme</span>]]</span>''' 18:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
+::{{ping|Harrison McGray|WanderingMorpheme}} The article currently states that he had a stroke in mid-November 1846 at the age of <b>78</b>. As he was born in July 1767 he would indeed be <b>79</b>. However, the "mid-November" appeared in [[Special:Diff/957463218|this edit from May 2020]], without a source. [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-dramatic-death-of-a-former-president-at-the-u-s-capitol PBS] says 78 with no mention of the month, and so does [https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/john-quincy-adams-slaverys-enemy-til-end/ The New England Historical Society]. I propose that we drop the month. [[User:Favonian|Favonian]] ([[User talk:Favonian|talk]]) 18:56, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
+:::Yeah that proposal sounds good to me, thank you for looking out. '''<span style="border-radius:6px;padding:1px 5px;background:#30a;">[[User:WanderingMorpheme|<span style="color:#bb87ff">Wandering</span>]][[User talk:WanderingMorpheme|<span style="color:#fcba03">Morpheme</span>]]</span>''' 19:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)