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== Requested move 17 June 2024 ==
[[User:Mataki|Mataki]] ([[User talk:Mataki|talk]]) 01:59, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
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== Infobox Picture ==
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Do we really need such a long description for the picture in the infobox? It seems far too wordy, and detracts from the rest of the information.[[User:Thomas Connor|Miguel Cervantes]] 21:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

:"A photograph of the opening sequence to The NewsHour, ''which can still be used today''."

:I don't get the second part of that sentence (italics mine). [[User:134.114.59.41|134.114.59.41]] 23:58, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

On Saturday, March 6 of 2003 an inaccurate map depicting the nations of Iraq and Iran was aired. They were labeled incorrectly as Iran and Iraq, respectively. Go to [http://www.white-mountain.org/jamie/news/images/iran_iraq_map_oops.jpg] to view the image.

Why is Charlayne Hunter-Gault listed in the infobox under "Starring"? She hasn't been a part of the show for many years now?

== Dab ==

Do we really need the [[WP:DAB|disambiguation]] line at the top of the page? It's not like, "Newshour" redirects here or anything. The "Newshour" page needs the dab because people would type in "Newshour" and get the British program, but not [[vice versa]]. --[[User:Jtalledo|Jtalledo]] [[User_talk:Jtalledo|(talk)]] 17:55, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

== Possible changes to production section ==

Major events such as disasters and elections will often change the format of a single show to provide greater coverage of the event. The news summary is then limited to stories relevant to the event, and other news that might normally be reported in the news summary is then placed in the recap at the end of the program. The remainder of the program is then dedicated to coverage and commentary for the main story.

The NewsHour is normally broadcast Monday through Friday. When a news event happens over the weekend, the Monday program often reports an update on Monday instead of relating the whole story from the beginning (citation needed).

In addition to its daily program, the NewsHour also provides media coverage and commentary at other times for the Democratic and Republican national conventions, Presidential debates, election nights, and States of the Union and other Presidential addresses.

The NewsHour includes types of segments that are rare on other American news programs (citation needed), including in-depth analysis of U.S. Supreme Court decisions (typically with correspondant Jan Crawford Greenburg) and analysis of current trends in media (with correspondant Terence Smith). Obituaries of notable persons are presented as "In Memoriam" segments near the end of the broadcast, before the news recap.

Jim Lehrer (or the most senior anchor, if he is not available) conducts the Friday analysis segment. He asks questions to two political columnists. For balance, one columnist is usually conservative and the other columnist is usually liberal (citation needed).

The description of the Honor Roll should be in its own paragraph. The mention of pledge drives belongs in a Sponsorship section, along with the list of sponsors. There should probably also be a seperate section for People or Contributors.

The claim "On May 17, 2006, the program underwent its first major change in presentation in years, adopting new broadcast graphics and a new version of the show's trademark theme song" is of disputable significance. No changes to the type or format of segments happened. Furthermore, the program's graphics have changed numerous times in the past.

The NewsHour interviewed Charlayne Hunter-Gault in August 2006. She is now living in South Africa and is no longer associated with the NewsHour.

[[User:72.129.134.187|72.129.134.187]] 18:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

== Obsolete Presentation Graphics ==

We really need to update still from the News Hour ident, and the example of Jim Lehrer with the "frame" over his shoulder, those graphics have not been used for almost a year now.

== Production and ratings ==

The long "Production and ratings" section seems to violate [[WP:NOR]] since it has no source, and it seems to be merely the editor's own observation of the program. (And it is long.) In other WP articles, that kind of material is usually deleted. If you want to describe the production of the Newshour, you should find a reliable source that describes it.

And there's nothing in there about ratings. [[User:Nbauman|Nbauman]] 02:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== recent move ==

Should this article really be named by the show's previous title (The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour)? Using the show's current title would make more sense to me. The given reason for the recent move ("that was the show's original title") is not true, as is clearly stated in the article.
And what the heck does "AKA called" mean? [[Special:Contributions/65.170.234.10|65.170.234.10]] ([[User talk:65.170.234.10|talk]]) 23:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, the name of the program as listed in the article is inaccurate, and is more a historical reference. The title of the article should be updated.--[[Special:Contributions/151.203.50.131|151.203.50.131]] ([[User talk:151.203.50.131|talk]]) 12:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Too much emphasis on FAIR criticism ==

It seems that the criticism issued by the FAIR advocacy group has been given too much importance in this article. FAIR is a left-leaning advocacy group and its obvious intention is to move the media farther to the left.

To people on the far left, a centrist point of view will seem too far right to them; to people on the far right, a centrist point of view will seem too far left. These criticisms aren't necessarily important as they are to be expected. [[User:Marshallj25|Marshallj25]] ([[User talk:Marshallj25|talk]]) 21:37, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Giving it pride of place only serves to make the NewsHour look better, of course. (Everyone expects the show to run into criticism for being too far left, as a PBS program.) But I agree, it's given too much space.[[User:Franknarf11|Franknarf11]] ([[User talk:Franknarf11|talk]]) 03:09, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

== Requested move ==

[[:The MacNeil / Lehrer NewsHour]] → [[The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer]] — Reverting unilateral move to current page, per consensus above. Lehrer hasn't been on the show since 1995, and the show's current official name is as requested, per [http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ Official site]. -'''[[User:M.nelson|M.Nelson]]''' ([[User talk:M.nelson|talk]]) 00:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
*Speedy rename. This can be fixed with G6 since it was a unilateral move <span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>, his otters and a clue-bat • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Many otters]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|One bat]] • [[User:TenPoundHammer|One hammer]])</sup> 20:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was '''page moved'''. [[User:Mataki|Mataki]] ([[User talk:Mataki|talk]]) 02:09, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


The result of the move request was: '''Moved''' to proposed <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> <span style="font-family:Monospace;color:black">>>>&nbsp;[[User:Extorc|<span style="color:purple">Extorc</span>]].[[User_talk:Extorc|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]</span> 17:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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[[:PBS NewsHour]] → {{no redirect|PBS News Hour}} – Following last week's rebrand (https://www.newscaststudio.com/2024/06/10/pbs-news-rebranding/), "News Hour" is now two different words. [[User:JE98|JE98]] ([[User talk:JE98|talk]]) 14:42, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
== Requested move to PBS NewsHour==

[[:The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer]] → [[PBS NewsHour]] — Official name change. Old name 'The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer' last broadcast on Dec 4; new name 'PBS NewsHour' already on official website now - http://www.pbs.org/newshour [[User:Petersam|Petersam]] ([[User talk:Petersam|talk]]) 06:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. This is not a controversial move; PBS has officially changed the name of the show. [[User:Sarilox|Sarilox]] ([[User talk:Sarilox|talk]]) 00:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
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== Ratings? ==

Yes, ratings are important. It says;
:"According to Nielsen ratings at the program's website, 2.7 million people watch the program each night, and 8 million individuals watch in the course of a week. The NewsHour is broadcast on more than 300 PBS stations, reaching 99% of the viewing public, and audio is broadcast by some National Public Radio stations."

2.7 million people watch, but what are the ratings?
"2.7 million people" is a meaningless number to the general public. How do they compare to network and cable news? <br> (And while their radio signal may reach 99% of the viewing public, the show (which requires tuning in,) does not, this sounds like meaningless happy-talk or PR-talk, if so please delete, if not; expand.) <br> --[[Special:Contributions/69.110.90.220|69.110.90.220]] ([[User talk:69.110.90.220|talk]]) 20:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)Doug Bashford
::"Reaching 99% of the viewing public" is a bit awkwardly phrased. "Available to 99%" would be more accurate. I'll make that change. As for the comparison of the 2.7 million to the viewership of commercial network and cable news, that is a question I'd like to answer. It's probably possible to get the numbers off of the other articles and list them for comparison, but that may be a little too [[WP:SYNTH]]. [[User:Oknazevad|oknazevad]] ([[User talk:Oknazevad|talk]]) 14:36, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

== funders ==


:'''Oppose''' - Doesn't seem worth moving over a single space. A redirect to this page would suffice. — <b>[[User:HandThatFeeds|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:DarkBlue;cursor:help">The Hand That Feeds You</span>]]:<sup>[[User talk:HandThatFeeds|Bite]]</sup></b> 14:52, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' per nomination. The [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/ PBS website does indeed indicate the program's title as "News Hour", not "NewsHour".] Users typing [[PBS NewsHour]] should be redirected to [[PBS News Hour]].&nbsp;—[[User:Roman Spinner|'''Roman Spinner''']] <small>[[User talk:Roman Spinner|(talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Roman Spinner|contribs)]]</small> 21:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


:'''Support''' per nom. The name needs to be updated. [[User:PuppyMonkey|PuppyMonkey]] ([[User talk:PuppyMonkey|talk]]) 22:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
== A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion ==
*'''Support'''. In addition to the NewscastStudio reference, the show began writing "News Hour" as two words – when written in a single line, not only in the (two-line) logo – in all of its graphics last week, so ''PBS News Hour'' is clearly now the official name. Given that this article concerns an existing program that is putting out new broadcasts regularly, we should change to the new spelling even though (for the time being) almost all of the cited references use the [[camel-case]] "NewsHour" spelling. [[User:SJ Morg|SJ Morg]] ([[User talk:SJ Morg|talk]]) 08:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' Official '''PBS News''' website (current name for digital and social media platforms) did confirmed the name change as PBS "News Hour" in two words, no longer just one word. We should just moved the page boldly, although in meantime, some references still use single word name ("Newshour"), the single-word version will fallen in use eventually. [[Special:Contributions/2404:8000:1037:456:E455:A216:3F71:20F0|2404:8000:1037:456:E455:A216:3F71:20F0]] ([[User talk:2404:8000:1037:456:E455:A216:3F71:20F0|talk]]) 10:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 15:49, 29 July 2024

Requested move 17 June 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to proposed (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 17:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PBS NewsHour → PBS News Hour – Following last week's rebrand (https://www.newscaststudio.com/2024/06/10/pbs-news-rebranding/), "News Hour" is now two different words. JE98 (talk) 14:42, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Doesn't seem worth moving over a single space. A redirect to this page would suffice. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 14:52, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. The name needs to be updated. PuppyMonkey (talk) 22:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. In addition to the NewscastStudio reference, the show began writing "News Hour" as two words – when written in a single line, not only in the (two-line) logo – in all of its graphics last week, so PBS News Hour is clearly now the official name. Given that this article concerns an existing program that is putting out new broadcasts regularly, we should change to the new spelling even though (for the time being) almost all of the cited references use the camel-case "NewsHour" spelling. SJ Morg (talk) 08:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Official PBS News website (current name for digital and social media platforms) did confirmed the name change as PBS "News Hour" in two words, no longer just one word. We should just moved the page boldly, although in meantime, some references still use single word name ("Newshour"), the single-word version will fallen in use eventually. 2404:8000:1037:456:E455:A216:3F71:20F0 (talk) 10:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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