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<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by [[User:Allyson103|Allyson103]] ([[User talk:Allyson103|talk]]) 01:49, 15 October 2023 (UTC)</span> |
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== Expanded "Clinical setting" section by adding information on medicine and healthcare and therapy == |
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The original "Clinical setting" section at the bottom of the article was lacking information. I added two topics underneath this section to expand on it: Medicine and Healthcare & Therapy. [[User:Kassafrass|Kassafrass]] ([[User talk:Kassafrass|talk]]) 22:47, 24 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== Development of the idea == |
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The "Unfocused" tag was placed a year ago without any talk page entry to explain its applicability. Seeing no justification in the current article content, I have removed it. [[User:WriterArtistDC|WriterArtistDC]] ([[User talk:WriterArtistDC|talk]]) 17:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
The "Unfocused" tag was placed a year ago without any talk page entry to explain its applicability. Seeing no justification in the current article content, I have removed it. [[User:WriterArtistDC|WriterArtistDC]] ([[User talk:WriterArtistDC|talk]]) 17:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I think the tag was appropriate. The article focuses on many different subjects and is generally very messy. For example, '''Neurodiversity and education''' and '''Neurodiversity and the workspace''' seem to heavily overlap with subjects covered in [[Inclusion (education)]], [[Special education]], and [[Inclusion (disability rights)]]. These sections are more about disabilities in education and workplace settings. The article is longer than it needs to be and I feel it is overloaded with information. --[[User:Pinecone23|Pinecone23]] ([[User talk:Pinecone23|talk]]) 21:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC) |
:I think the tag was appropriate. The article focuses on many different subjects and is generally very messy. For example, '''Neurodiversity and education''' and '''Neurodiversity and the workspace''' seem to heavily overlap with subjects covered in [[Inclusion (education)]], [[Special education]], and [[Inclusion (disability rights)]]. These sections are more about disabilities in education and workplace settings. The article is longer than it needs to be and I feel it is overloaded with information. --[[User:Pinecone23|Pinecone23]] ([[User talk:Pinecone23|talk]]) 21:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Notability of Critiques of the Neurodiversity Movement == |
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''""Critiques of the Neurodiversity Movement", a 2020 review, raised two concerns regarding the term neurotypical"'' |
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Is this study particularly notable? Any study could be cherry-picked into this section if it supports the two concerns so perhaps this needs rewriting. [[Special:Contributions/212.187.164.162|212.187.164.162]] ([[User talk:212.187.164.162|talk]]) 10:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== NPOV issues (particularly "In Social Media") == |
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Much of the article has issues with NPOV. Criticisms are often downplayed or ignored. There's a bit too much a positive spin on neurodiversity, especially when applied in a general sense (as opposed to specific cases related to autism). This is particularly obvious in the "In Social Media," which seems to be a cheerleading act for using social media among the neurodiverse without any serious discussion on issues related to social media. One of the key problems is that social media often encourages fraught actions such as self-diagnosis and attempts to doctor-shop a condition, which is often harmful for disabled people in collective sense (as many normies and high-functioning people are incentivized to play up a condition, which in turn marginalizes people with not-so-glamorous conditions). |
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While the larger article could benefit from an NPOV, I specifically applied it to this section because the writing is clearly non-neutral. [[User:Brokenwit|Brokenwit]] ([[User talk:Brokenwit|talk]]) 07:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Development of the idea
This article is fairly cautious in its attribution in any case, but it ought to be edited to reflect this correction to the historical record: The neurodiversity concept was developed collectively: An overdue correction on the origins of neurodiversity theory
It could also be good to add a bit more on recent signs of mainstream/establishment acceptance of the idea, like this special issue of the British Psychological Society's The Psychologist (magazine), or the General Teaching Council for Scotland's professional guides. Oolong (talk) 16:22, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Those are cool recent sources, thanks for sharing. Bluerasberry (talk) 17:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Removed maintenance tag
The "Unfocused" tag was placed a year ago without any talk page entry to explain its applicability. Seeing no justification in the current article content, I have removed it. WriterArtistDC (talk) 17:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think the tag was appropriate. The article focuses on many different subjects and is generally very messy. For example, Neurodiversity and education and Neurodiversity and the workspace seem to heavily overlap with subjects covered in Inclusion (education), Special education, and Inclusion (disability rights). These sections are more about disabilities in education and workplace settings. The article is longer than it needs to be and I feel it is overloaded with information. --Pinecone23 (talk) 21:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Notability of Critiques of the Neurodiversity Movement
Regarding this section:
""Critiques of the Neurodiversity Movement", a 2020 review, raised two concerns regarding the term neurotypical"
Is this study particularly notable? Any study could be cherry-picked into this section if it supports the two concerns so perhaps this needs rewriting. 212.187.164.162 (talk) 10:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
NPOV issues (particularly "In Social Media")
Much of the article has issues with NPOV. Criticisms are often downplayed or ignored. There's a bit too much a positive spin on neurodiversity, especially when applied in a general sense (as opposed to specific cases related to autism). This is particularly obvious in the "In Social Media," which seems to be a cheerleading act for using social media among the neurodiverse without any serious discussion on issues related to social media. One of the key problems is that social media often encourages fraught actions such as self-diagnosis and attempts to doctor-shop a condition, which is often harmful for disabled people in collective sense (as many normies and high-functioning people are incentivized to play up a condition, which in turn marginalizes people with not-so-glamorous conditions).
While the larger article could benefit from an NPOV, I specifically applied it to this section because the writing is clearly non-neutral. Brokenwit (talk) 07:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Psychology Capstone
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