User talk:Tedder

Global names index list

Hey there. In response to your questions would you be able to explain what you mean by annotations? There is no need to get anything from the global names index since Raul already extracted all the names from the list (A person creating articles from the list would go there to get additional references, but in order to arrange the list itself, there is no need to have access to them directly). In addition to that, he removed a lot of the names that would never become articles and that link I posted ([1]) contains all the species, genera and higher rankings that are currently named/listed in a database (example of rauls list: (http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mpellegr/wikipedia/data/AAA-ADX-filtered). The sources where all these names come from is here: [2].

Now I am no computer expert but I can make a general outline/plan of how I envision the bot to work for my functions:

1. Bot opens [3]
2. Bot copies first ~2,000 articles from the list (since I already did this manually for the first page [4] the bot can copy 2,000 articles below the last name of the previous page, in this case being Abelmoschus ficulneoides)
3. Bot edits/creates page called A2 (I.E. following on from the above title) and pastes 2,000 names. (I say edit, because the current pages actually were created by me manually prior to Raul obtaining the filtered version of the list, these pages that do exist can be overwritten --> All others that don't exist can be created from scratch)
4. Bot adds template words/headings/titles as shown on page [5]
5. Bot saves list.
6. Bot obtains the next 2,000 names after the last name from the previous page.
7. Process is repeated (A3, A4, A5.... A500...) until all of letter A is done.
8. Bot does the same with B through Z

That should cover it but if you have any other questions please feel free to ask. Note that this has a lot of names (surprisingly a lot of things missing from Wikipedia) and the previous person who tried to do it kept crashing their computer (I myself was having a lot of trouble pasting such large amounts of data). Oh and yes this will be a one of request. Understandably there are new species and genera being discovered all the time (in fact, the GNI has updated the number of names it has by a few thousand from when I last updated the project page: [6] --> 18,633,200 to 18,636,390 but we can worry about those other names ONCE the main list is covered (which will take a while). Note also that since Raul's list is the filtered version and hence does not have 18 million names (not sure how much but it is A LOT LESS than that). Here is our previous discussion with him for further background: [7].

Kind regards.Calaka (talk) 12:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Calaka. It's certainly something I can help with. But I still have some questions. First, will this list be ADDED to the Global Names Index or REPLACING it? tedder (talk) 17:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Well it will not be replacing the website if that is what you meant? The actual list placed here on Wikipedia is done so we can easily see what we need to create (red link) vs. what is already created (blue link). The bot only needs to update page 1 of the letters B - Z and A2 through to A10 since I did those manually and prior to the updated list so a lot of the names on those list currently are out of date/not needed (A1 I did myself so no need to touch that). So the bot only needs to update those pages but then after that it will need to create from scratch (i.e. Page A11, A12, A13, A14 etc.). Note that there is only 2,000 names per list due to the {{search}} template restricting/not working after a certain amount.Calaka (talk) 21:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

No, not the website. What I mean is the GNI pages. You did A1. If the bot does A2, it will be replacing anything already on A2? I assume the answer is yes, but what if SFNI has something in it? Let me know if that's not clear. tedder (talk) 22:10, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah sorry I misunderstood. I watclisted all the other pages and no one made any edits to them so you are more than welcome to update them. I only did changes to page one of the letter A just to showcase/test out how I (& others) would go about doing this list. Cheers!Calaka (talk) 08:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Any luck?Calaka (talk) 11:54, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Making some progress. It'll take me some more time, but the basic bits are there at least. tedder (talk) 13:56, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah that is good to know! Let me know how the progress is going and if you have any other questions. Kind regards.Calaka (talk) 08:20, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

So just out of curiosity, are you using python to make the bot? When Raul compiled the list he used that program. Furthermore when you make the bot will you have to run it through an approval process (since it is not doing anything on main space)? Cheers!Calaka (talk) 11:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey- I haven't had time to crank on this recently. Bug me in 4-5 days if you haven't heard anything. Most of my bots are in perl, which is what I'll use for this. And you are right, it won't need approval because it's out of mainspace and very limited in scope. tedder (talk) 14:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hehehe will do! :)Calaka (talk) 13:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

How did it go?Calaka (talk) 09:57, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

fuck you for locking tosh.o

Long term AnonIP at Second Amendment article...

This matter you were involved in last November, (see here[8]), still seems to be brewing. At present it is not anything close to being a crisis. Though, you asked me to ping you if it were to resurface. Thank you for all your tireless work. SaltyBoatr ^{get wet} 18:22, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not seeing that it's the same thing- fairly civil replies, not the same cut-and-paste soapboxing. However, if it turns into that (or it has, and I saw the wrong diffs to prove it), it probably needs to go to ANI to get consensus for a topic/page ban. If that happens, let me know so I can support it. tedder (talk) 19:02, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Again, presently not a crisis. The biggest clue of IPhop/sock is the geolocate to Cambridge Massachusetts vicinity. Also, I agree that the degree of ranting is much toned down and improved. And truth be told, I am still hopeful that I can find a way to cooperate with this person; bringing my best patience and WP:AGF to the task. SaltyBoatr ^{get wet} 20:27, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the AGF thing. Sometimes it's hard when a likely IP gets to skate that. But do what you can- it's a big change for many soapboxy IPs/socks to actually read and reply. And just ranting/replying on the talk page is a good thing! tedder (talk) 20:52, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

tedderbot

Forgot to mention this yesterday but it looks like tedderbot fall down go boom... --Esprqii (talk) 00:01, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I knew I should have waited 10 minutes before posting this. Never mind. --00:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Heh. I intentionally made it come after 0 UTC, so it's an hour later than it was before the DST change. tedder (talk) 01:05, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Irving Literary Society

I've read through the Closing comments, and worked up a new page for eventually republishing. Could you look at and provide some thoughts? The page is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cmagha Thanks so much. --Cmagha (talk) 02:46, 22 May 2010 (UTC) Cmagha

Thank you

Thank you for [9]. Please also review [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], and [15]. 12.238.13.194 (talk) 04:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

this edit claims you are a banned user. tedder (talk) 04:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

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