User talk:RJN/Archive 21

Texas Medical Center

Shouldn't the following two buildings be mentioned within wikiTMC?

▼University of Houston: Health CenterAddress: 100 Uh Health Ctr, Houston, Tx 77204 77004-2693

▼University of Houston College of PharmacyAddress: Houston, Texas

Both which can be located using, google maps and typing in the following: university of houston in texas medical center

I apologize if this isn't allowed, I'm a newcomer to wiki.

THanks

UH System-Texas Medical Center

The Texas Medical Center is home to UH-Clear Lake's Healthcare Administration program, where students can earn both undergraduate or graduate degrees. The University of Houston also offers a unique Master's in Teaching degree for Medical Educators to employees working in the medical/nursing/allied health education field. The Texas Medical Center is also home to University of Houston research programs in Pharmacy and Health & Human Performance. ( http://www.uhsa.uh.edu/occ/ ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isupportwiki4eva (talk • contribs) 19:08, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I work in the medical center and if it helps; University of Houston does have a branch located here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.53.46.147 (talk) 02:05, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

UH naming controversy

Hi, RJN! Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_University_of_Houston#Articles_from_1986_relating_to_naming_controversies - I was able to get full citations on four of the articles you listed. The other two links are broken, though.

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 18:49, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

University of Houston, yet again

I am still very uncomfortable with your editing history at University of Houston. For the purposes of this message, however, I will focus on a single edit. Let's consider your edit summary and take the points one by one:

• "Contextual links for this article should be UH- or university-related links, not a link to a broad geography article."

  Yes, contextual links should be sufficiently related to the subject of the article, clearly. But Houston is much more than simply a "broad geography article" in this context: it helps to "define" what the University of Houston is (along with "research university", BTW—which, I will note, is quite "university related").

  According to WP:LEAD#Contextual links, "The opening sentence should provide links to the broader or more elementary topics that define the article's topic or place it into the context where it is notable." (Note my emphasis on the word "links".) The vast majority of (substantial) WP articles do this. Even the vast majority of featured articles do this!

  Consider just the six FAs promoted last week (using the current versions for convenience):

  1. The McDonnell XF-85 Goblin was an American prototype fighter aircraft conceived during World War II by McDonnell Aircraft.
  2. Seacology is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) charitable organization headquartered in Berkeley, California that focuses on preserving island ecosystems and cultures around the globe.
  3. Xeromphalina setulipes is a species of Mycenaceae fungus.
  4. HMS Princess Royal was the second of two Lion-class battlecruisers built for the Royal Navy before World War I.
  5. The Human Centipede (First Sequence) is a 2010 Dutch body horror film written and directed by Tom Six.
  6. The Heidi Game or Heidi Bowl was an American football game played on November 17, 1968.

  Now compare the lead sentence of University of Houston (as of your Sep 12th edit—the current version only adds ", USA" on the end):

  • The University of Houston is a public research university located in Houston, Texas.

  No contextual links at all. In fact, in the entire article (lead, article body, infobox) there is not a single link to Houston or Texas, or university, or research university, or universities in the United States, or anything that would be considered a "contextual link" of the sort I'm talking about.

  Ah, but there is one link to a "broader topic" that you've allowed in the UH lead: University of Houston System. Unfortunately, you've made sure that article doesn't link to any of these things either! This situation is completely unacceptable. (Please note, BTW, that even the editors at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking#Overlinking vs. overpolicing who disagreed with me on how much should be linked in the lead agreed that your level of delinking was "extreme" or "went too far". This is what Art LaPella was alluding to in this comment.)

• "This article is about an academic institution, not a geography article."

  No WP guideline says that only geography articles should link to other geography articles. (Besides, this remark of yours seems a bit disingenuous, seeing as how you weren't even allowing links to Texas in the Houston article!)

• "The link to Houston is out of context."

  It is arguable that Houston is the "contextual" link that most people would in fact follow from the UH article, seeing as how that is where the university is located, and is where most people would end up living if they visited/taught/worked there.

So, the punchline is this: please add a link to Houston in the lead sentence of University of Houston in order to minimally comply with WP:LEAD. If you don't, then I will do so again myself. - dcljr (talk) 07:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC)