User talk:Dweller

Blunders are too easy here.

--JayEB (talk) 18:11, 2 November 2011 (UTC) A new account should be guided to a one-page tutorial, and the new user
should be required to click a box indicating that they understand that
one-page tutorial (with blunder avoidance tips).

It's actually not so easy to find the tutorial section on your own,
and I am still-living proof that you can break a lot of expensive glassware
with only the best intentions. I don't want to see the Logarithm article
disappear before my eyes, but that's what I caused.

I did not recognize that revising after a preview is dangerous, in that IF the
editing box has secretly emptied, then that's what will show on the article.
I tested this in sandbox today. I changed my first preview, and the new preview
was fine. But though a second preview looked good, the edit box had secretly emptied,
and that "empty space" appeared on the article. And I could not undo that.
Maybe there should be a 922 button for blunder assistance.
But I need more tutorial time.
UPDATE: Before I posted this from preview, I noticed that the
edit box had secretly emptied. So one precaution is to not post
after a preview. This goes to press without a preview .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by JayEB (talk • contribs) 18:17, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello. I'm not sure I really understand what you're saying. Previewing and then revising does not create problems, it's considered good practice (I've previewed this response three times and tweaked it!)... unless, I suppose, you get an WP:EDITCONFLICT. Does that link help? NB it looks like you're typing messages into a word processor and then pasting them here. That creates the weird formatting problems that make your post look like a poem. --Dweller (talk) 13:14, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Your repeated inability to put real refs into Aggers... do stop it Dwellers...

Dude, this sentence: "He did, however, play three One Day Internationals (ODIs) on that tour, two in India and one in Australia.[33] " ref 33 is that useless link that doesn't do what you want it to do. I may be able to help, but you need to tell me what you typed into Cricket Archive to get what you thought was a decent result? (P.S. Budgies doing alright, eh?) The Rambling Man (talk) 17:02, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and in a little bit of looking around Cricket Archive, I found this which is a nice shoe-in for him appearing for the JP Getty XI should you wish for its inclusion? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:04, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Finally, what was ref name=cap (currently ref 52) supposed to point to? You have a massive red error at the bottom of the page right now saying that you haven't actually defined what ref name=cap really is...! Quick Google of the quote didn't help me... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:10, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay, super finally, did you see the the Cricinfo profile of him has his nicknames as Spiro and Agers [sic], not Aggers? Wow! Are you going to email him at TMS to tell him when we finally get this article a bronze star by the way?? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:37, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Whoosh. Which of these are still live issues? PS Thanks for all the editing over the weekend. --Dweller (talk) 12:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

All of the above (although I think I sorted the last one... can't remember!). No worries! The Rambling Man (talk) 12:38, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Ref 33 works perfectly. Maybe you already fixed it? --Dweller (talk) 13:20, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh yes, I recall, you had a CricketArchive generic "oracle" link which didn't lead anywhere, I replaced it with a Cricinfo link. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:31, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Coolio. "Cap" seems to be fine as well. --Dweller (talk) 13:42, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Man I'm good. I think some of them you use ref name=cap and others you used ref name="cap" which clearly wouldn't work...! So that just leaves the tidbits re:JP Getty and Agers [sic]. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Getty, no thanks. Agers? Ridiculous. We need to source both nicks for the infobox. We could cricinfo for Spiro and one of his books for the other? Or any one of dozens of RS? --Dweller (talk) 14:04, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

It was (a) because prior to the overhaul, there was a list of "other teams" he'd appeared for, so just wondered... and (b) because he has probably one of the most famous nicknames in cricket and Cricinfo had it wrong. Just noted it for fun really...! The Rambling Man (talk) 14:09, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Feedback Dashboard task force

Hi Dweller,

I noticed you replied to some feedback from the new Feedback Dashboard feature – you might be interested in the task force Steven Walling and I just created for this purpose: Wikipedia:Feedback Dashboard. Thanks for diving in on your own and helping the newbies, and I hope you'll sign up! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 00:18, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Otium

How do I go about getting Otium reassessed to possible B-Class and getting an assessment of "importance" on the WikiProjects?--Doug Coldwell ^talk 12:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

The WikiProjects tend to come along when they're ready, but you can always drop them a line at their respective project talk pages and request a review. Or see who's active in each project and contact them directly. I've no experience with B class articles, I'm afraid, so you're asking the wrong person. Why not find a B class article and see who it was that tagged it and ask them? --Dweller (talk) 14:14, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

O.K. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 14:24, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

commons

Do you mind moving File:RavMosheKever.jpg to commons? Chesdovi (talk) 11:21, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand. Why would I mind it being moved? --Dweller (talk) 11:35, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Sofermausoleum.jpg, this one too, I am asking you please to move it. Chesdovi (talk) 11:38, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Transwiki stuff isn't my forte - I don't know anything about it. Is this something only admins can do? --Dweller (talk) 12:10, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

ok. Now I see normal people can actually. Chesdovi (talk) 12:55, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

TB

Hello, Dweller. You have new messages at Sven Manguard's talk page.
Message added 16:54, 10 November 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Sven Manguard Wha? 16:54, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Noor Aftab

Hello Dweller. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Noor Aftab, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article has been edited since it was tagged and is no longer a copyvio. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 23:24, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

A good result. I opted not to delete it myself because I didn't have the time to look through in detail. Stubbing it and listing at AfD was good work, thank you. --Dweller (talk) 11:01, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Input requested

WT:New editor feedback#Proposed office hours. Thanks, Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 21:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

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I excluded Polish interwiki since it is about American trappers, not about animal trapping in general. Olegwiki (talk) 10:39, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks. What about including en:? --Dweller (talk) 11:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hi,Thanks for your direction.I saw you've undid my version and i'm glad for that.I found naming some bowlers' name in other pages like Doosra, so i too planned to add those guys name.Nothing more personal :) . What should i do if i join The Cricket WikiProject? Thanks Abdul raja (talk) 12:12, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!!! I've added my name in that list. Hope i can make something!!! Thanks for your guidance. Abdul raja (talk) 12:22, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Tamil

Yes.My Mother Tongue is Tamil. How you got it? I'm in Tamil Wiki also. Abdul raja (talk) 13:44, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Diacritics being discussed on Jimbo’s talk page

I’ve mentioned the way you (properly so, in my opinion) closed a move request on an article. The discussion is here on Jimbo’s talk page. If you can add anything of value to the discussion (I suspect you can given your recent expertise in this area), it would probably be helpful over there. I think your participation would certainly improve the quality of the discussion. Greg L (talk) 00:42, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Liverpool in European Football

Hey Dweller, just to let you know I've responded to your comments at the FAC, Cheers. NapHit (talk) 10:52, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

"Vital" article feedback

I saw your post at Jimbo's talk page; it seems to reflect the same general methodological problems that most readers have identified, there's pretty good consensus on the flaws in the analysis, but since most of the feedback is consolidated at WT:FAC, and there is little at Jimbo's talk, it might be helpful for you to also add your post to the ongoing discussion at WT:FAC so it's all kept in one place. TCO's multiple accounts and IP edits already make following the matter hard enough. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:39, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

The core contest is Wikipedia:The_Core_Contest here - see the link to entries. It achieved useful results I think (as a runner-up), although Danny then announced he couldn't afford the cash prizes after all. About a year later a very kind user/editor who had not been involved paid them. Contrary to what many would have you believe, my entry Raphael has not been very hard to maintain since, despite getting over a million views a year. Johnbod (talk) 16:47, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks. --Dweller (talk) 16:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Aggers FAC

You forgot to transclude it to the FAC page! I did it and left a note to say so; looks good, by the way and I'll try to chip in during the next few days. --Sarastro1 (talk) 18:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. And any talk page stalkers who're interested, please do visit the Jonathan Agnew FAC! --Dweller (talk) 20:15, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I think I covered all but one of Brian's comments, the last "content" one so that's yours to deal with. Awesomeness. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:59, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

My scanner is currently up the spout, but as the section(s) aren't too long, I could stick them on Aggers' talk page if you want. I also found some stuff in a truly dreadful book about when Ray Illingworth was chairman of selectors, written by Jack Bannister. It has a lot on the dirt-in-pocket and talks about Aggers' role. I can stick that on too if it helps. Let me know. --Sarastro1 (talk) 19:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

That'd be great. If you can find anything about Aggers and the selectors while a player - especially Titmus - I'd be interested, as I've seen lots of RS that knowingly wink at the issue without detailing it. --Dweller (talk) 10:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I've put the Wisden and Bannister stuff on talk for you to have a look at. Let me know if there is anything else from there that you want. I'll dig to see if I have any other stuff on his non-selection and the selectors. Unfortunately, I doubt it, but ... --Sarastro1 (talk) 19:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Dweller, sorry not Doug. How did you come up with the Google Books results for Jacob-ben-Meir. That's a string search on a single term, Jacobbenmeir. It shouldn't be affected by loose Jacobs and Meirs. What number did you get? In ictu oculi (talk) 13:50, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi again, I've redone those GB searches from every angle and I'm sorry but appears you must have not entered the search as a string. Do you think you could possibly check and then could you please go back to Talk:Judaism and correct the message you left there, I'd prefer not to post disagreeing if possible. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:56, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Ooooopppppssss

sorry about that. — Ched :  ?  20:25, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

No worries - it makes me smile every time! --Dweller (talk) 21:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Ya know .. literally for years I've thought that you and Dougweller were one and the same - just variations on the sig. I figure a)I really need to tay appention better .. or b) I really need to get these glasses renewed. :) (yea .. that's my variation of "pay attention" ... probably sounds better than it looks ... lol) — Ched :  ?  22:17, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

As you can tell from this page, you're not the first person and you definitely won't be the last. And hey, Doug's a great editor, so I'm flattered by the confusion really. --Dweller (talk) 23:49, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Well,

it's certainly going to be less humorous if you remove the humor! ;-) --MZMcBride (talk) 13:11, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

LOL! There's some humour in here, if you're interested. At least, I think it's funny, anyway. --Dweller (talk) 13:16, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

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Agnew early career

I'm a bit loath to edit the Agnew article when you and TRM are making such as good job of putting it into some order. But as someone thought the early career stuff was a bit thin you might be interested in a snippet I found in The Times about his injury-proneness early on. It's from the issue of 28 October 1980 under the heading "Another setback for Agnew" (page 9, issue No 60761) and reads:

The promising Leicestershire fast bowler, Jonathan Agnew, aged 22 [sic], is being flown home from Australia after contracting glandular fever. He was to have spent the winter playing for a club side.

Mike Turner, the Leicestershire secretary-manager, said: "It's a great disappointment because Jonathan had just returned to his best form after battling for 12 months to recover from a back injury."

I'll go on perusing copies of The Times from his early cricket days and will post anything sensible I find here, or on the talk page if you prefer. Johnlp (talk) 23:22, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

That's just magic, thank you. I take it you have a subscription, which is brilliant. Might ask you a favour on a different topic. Please paste it all (including above) to Aggers talk page, perhaps in your own section to avoid e/c? --Dweller (talk) 23:25, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I joined my local library just to get access to The Times archives: they only go up to 1985 (thereafter you have to pay money to the current owner, which I'm not inclined to do). But they're invaluable for older (and better-connected) players. You can trace Agnew's ancestry pretty well through their court and social pages, for instance. Johnlp (talk) 23:36, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

That Agger's ref

Ref 85 (The Times one you added) provides me with nothing we can use as citation paramaters. I don't even get a headline or anything, I just get redirected to the homepage... The Rambling Man (talk) 15:32, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey, you're famous

See today's NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/nyregion/rabbi-pintos-followers-blame-aides-for-missing-millions.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp --Mosmof (talk) 19:05, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Great. I've been selectively misquoted. They missed out an important word. Now, where's my lawyer? --Dweller (talk) 19:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Play nice!

We can't help it we're Dutch. Congrats on getting your name in the paper, by the way, and thanks for the copy edit. OK, your edit summary, I say those kinds of things too--Mrs. Drmies hates me for it. All the best, Drmies (talk) 14:37, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, that's a first...

Oopsie. Perhaps better luck for us next year? Maybe a new mandate appeared at FAC lately, I've seen nominations running for months. Seemed a little harsh considering how much work we'd put into it during candidacy (and given our previous contributions, both in nominations and reviews at FAC) but hey ho, that's why FAC is dying on its arse I suppose, like the rest of Wikipedia. I think I need a break. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Demi Moore

I would be absolutely happy to take you up on your generous offer. It's a confounding issue, and I much admire your courage and optimism in volunteering to mediate. I hope the others in this case feel that mediation is as appropriate as I do. With thanks, Tenebrae (talk) 18:55, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello again, Dweller. I think we can see by the fact that I'm willing to have mediation and discuss things like a grownup, while the others continue to snipe at me with, honest to God, "liar, liar, pants on fire" in an edit summary like they're six years old, that they're not interested. What do you recommend? An RfC? --Tenebrae (talk) 01:45, 23 December 2011 (UTC)