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Egyptology

Hello, and thank you for your review at WP:Peer review/Egyptian temple/archive1. I responded to your comments, if you're interested. But I also wanted to suggest a source for the "weighing of the heart" article you're working on: Death and Salvation in Ancient Egypt (2005) by Jan Assmann. Assmann's prose is dense at best, but the book is the most thorough treatment of Egyptian afterlife beliefs in existence. I believe Assmann has suggested that the Negative Confession derives ultimately from priestly vows of purity. A. Parrot (talk) 01:13, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Task force

Pursuing the task force idea ... would you be interested in participating, and if so, would it be possible for you to round up some people who share your views and keep in touch with them as the task force makes recommendations? - Dank (push to talk) 21:08, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

while it sounds like a good idea, I don't want to commit myself - I have plenty of commitments already! If it gets going I'll keep an eye on things though. The Land (talk) 21:45, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 21:55, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

User_talk:Dank/RFA

I'd like to ask some questions about the endorsements idea without distracting from the "Eureka" thread on this temporary talk page. Thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 00:19, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Ironclad Warship

I hope you don't mind, but I have made citations in the article on the Ironclad Warship more specific. The problem with citing Sondhaus p55 or Beeler p55 is that both authors have written several relevant books. Whilst I appreciate that at the moment it is clear which book is being cited, it is foreseeable that their other books may get cited. Indeed I think they should be.--Toddy1 (talk) 15:47, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

I'd noticed that, actually, and definitely approve - thank you! The Land (talk) 16:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Milhist FA, A-Class and Peer Reviews Jan-Mar 2011

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Screw propeller

Hello The Land! I am presently rationalising various links and re-directs that go to one of our articles Propeller or Propeller (aircraft). There is a re-direct, Screw propellor, which leads to Propeller#Marine. Wikipedia has standardised on the spelling propeller rather than the minority spelling propellor so I have changed Screw propellor to Screw propeller wherever it has been used.

There is now only one link to Screw propellor remaining on Wikipedia and that is in your draft article User:The Land/Wooden steam warship. See HERE. I have noticed that throughout this draft article you have used the minority spelling propellor rather than propeller. I am happy to change this but I don't tinker with a User's personal sandbox without the User's agreement.

I will watch this Talk page for a week or so. If you are happy for me to make the changes just let me know. Regards. Dolphin (t) 02:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Have I not responded to this? Yes, go ahead and change away :-) The Land (talk) 09:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I have made the changes. See the diff. Dolphin (t) 11:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

I want to thank you for your peer review of Egyptian temple, as well as your support for its FA status. I also want to thank you for FAC reviewing in general—I did it out of a sense of obligation while Egyptian temple was at FAC, and I hated it. Kudos to everybody who keeps the system working. A. Parrot (talk) 05:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Congratulations

I've certainly heard about the British Museum project; somebody posted a note about last year's prize contest on the Ancient Egypt project page. I considered attempting to bring Papyrus of Ani up to FA standard, but before I could really do anything about it, the prizes were all taken. Rosetta Stone turned out to be a really good read, though.

For the past few years, improving the coverage of ancient Egyptian religion has been my primary goal on Wikipedia. That includes the funerary texts—in fact, I wanted the prize specifically so I could buy one of the museum's giant books on funerary texts—so I was glad to see that you made Book of the Dead a GA. Someday I hope to get around to the other texts, so if the museum starts working on those, I would like to help. I've never written collaboratively before, though, and don't know how good at it I would be.

Incidentally, I'll be in the museum in August, marching around looking for the statue of Bastet with the four kittens. A. Parrot (talk) 18:34, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

SMS Friedrich der Grosse (1911) ACR

Hi, The Land. The SMS Friedrich der Grosse (1911) A-class review is due to be closed shortly (in the next 36 hours or so) and I am trying to gauge if all concerns have been addressed so I can look to close it. Would you mind taking another look at the ACR and stating if you support or oppose it's promotion? Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 13:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually my concerns about the terseness of the construction section hadn't been addressed at all, and I was away for Easter and not checking Wikipedia... oh well... The Land (talk) 20:16, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey Land: Hot Tip

Given what I've read about some similar problems you've had in the not too distant past with a certain power-hungry, egotistical, know-it-all, hypocritical, dishonest, [[douche bag] admini, I strongly suspect you would enjoy watching me hand him his shriveled, severed testicles in the current debate,to be completed here in the next few days. Feel free to jump in this lynching any time you damn well please, if you want to  :-)

"The show" has already started, and its at [1]. Hope to see you around.

Best regards: Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS (talk) 04:17, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Aetna class ironclad floating battery

I have created redirects for the vessels of the Aetna class ironclad floating battery, to the class page as this contains stub histories of each. At some future date people may choose to turn some or all of the redirects into articles. --Toddy1 (talk) 10:17, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

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Barnstar

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Kipland

DYK that there is this poem called The Land by Kipling. Here it is lustily sung at Sidmouth. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 00:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't. I'm named after The Land (song)... The Land (talk) 12:14, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Did You Know - Gondal

I've nominated Gondal to appear as a Did You Know item. I'm not sure if anyone else was going to do this. It is the fourth day after creation so I thought I should go ahead. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 18:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I was meaning to but would never have got round to it, tbh... :-) The Land (talk) 18:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

British Library follow-up

Thank you for participating in the English and Drama Editathon at the British Library on June 4. I hope you enjoyed the day and got something useful out of it.

If you are new to Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects, I hope you had any questions or problems answered and maybe found being a contributor as addictive as many of the regulars do. If you've got any questions or need help, please feel free to ask any of us on our talk page or by e-mail (Fæ, Tom Morris, Sadads, James F., RHaworth, The Land, AdamBMorgan), ask on the British Library collaboration page or through the Wikipedia Help Desk.

If you are interested in working on Wikipedia, you might want to consider joining one of the WikiProjects. These are places where team work between editors interested in a particular topic can be coordinated. Some suggestions for WikiProjects that may be of interest to you as a participant in the event on Saturday include Literature, Poetry or Science Fiction. A full list of literature and language related WikiProjects can be found here, and a list of all WikiProjects is here. The WikiProjects often have things that need doing, and if you need help you can often ask in their talk page.

But there are other places you can get involved. If you are interested on working on images, such as improving image descriptions, categorisation or uploading new media, consider getting involved in Wikimedia Commons. Wikisource also needs people willing to help make available original source material, and Wikiquote is trying to compile a directory of quotes which you may be able to contribute to.

If you want to continue some of the work we got started on Saturday, here are a few potential things to help with:

• Following on from work on Ella D'Arcy on Saturday, work has started to make all of The Yellow Book available on Wikisource. If you go to the page on Wikisource and pick a volume then click on 'scan index' you can start helping to proofread pages from the journal - simply click on the page you want to work on, and go through to check that the text on the left reflects the text on the right. If you need any help with getting started, please ask User:Tom Morris.
• If you created any new articles at the event, you might want to submit them to Did you know?.
• If you are able to translate into other languages, why not pick one of the articles we worked on, translate it and post it on another language version of Wikipedia: there are now versions in hundreds of languages. On Wikimedia Commons, it is also possible to provide multilingual descriptions of images and categories: this enables editors on the other language versions to better find images and media files they can use in their project.
• If you need images from the British Library to illustrate articles, please add them to the image requests page. If you would like a British LIbrary curator to help collaborate on an article, please add it to the collaborations page.
• You might also be interested in attending GLAMcamp London.
• To explore more articles related to the British Library, visit Portal:British Library.

Whatever you do, please tell us about the positive and negative experiences you have. On behalf of the organisers of the event, thanks again.

—Tom Morris (talk) 11:25, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gondal (fictional country)

Materialscientist (talk) 18:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Image licensing

Hi,

I added the cc-by-sa template to the photo of Arthur which you uploaded to meta. I assumed that would be ok with you since that's the license you used for File:The photographer team.jpg and File:Till Mletzko at the Fundraising Summit 2011.jpg. If you prefer another license, please update the file (or just let me know and I'll do it), because I'd like to move the file to Commons and put it in the appropriate category together with those two, and a proper license is required for that.

Cheers, Waldir ^talk 10:05, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

that's all fine - thanks - have you got home ok yet? The Land (talk) 10:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Great! I'll transfer the image then.

I am almost home. There was a delay of over an hour in the flights, and the subway from the airport in Porto arrived to the train station roughly 5 minutes after a train left to my city, so now I'm here waiting an extra hour for the next one :) But hey, each step gets me closer to home, so at least it's progress :) --Waldir ^talk 21:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

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Hyphens again

There's a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(ships)#Punctuation_and_ship_classes that I think you should know about. Yours, Shem (talk) 20:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

There be dragons

Somehow, I never even thought to look.... :( TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 22:05, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

MILHIST infrastructure for NMM collaboration

I don't know if you've had a chance to take a look at my two suggestions for how we could set up infrastructure for GLAM/NMM work within MILHIST; in any case, please let me know what you think the most useful approach would be, and we can get started on setting it up. Thanks! Kirill ^{[talk] [prof]} 01:59, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I hadn't spotted it - so thanks for pointing it out! I think a MILHIST tag and the resulting statistics would definitely be useful. I wouldn't rule out making it a fully-fledged MILHIST taskforce but am not sure that's needed at the moment - if that makes sense. Also, if it would be possible to announce it in the Bugle that would be really useful as well.

The intention is very definitely to enhance the NMM's information as well as simply integrating it. Obviously articles will be improved once they're created - that's what wikipedia is all about - but it's actually quite interesting and fun to do a bit of cross-refencing and research at the same time as updating it.

This project will be a bit different to most MILHIST projects in that the outcome will be thousands of stubs and starts, rather than dozens of featured articles.

Hope that all makes sense and sorry I didn't get back to you more quickly. I am trying to avoid saying "this is how it's going to work, this is what I need" - because I'm still getting to grips with how it might work myself! Happy to discuss furhter - regards, The Land (talk) 10:41, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. It shouldn't be difficult to add a tag to {{WPMILHIST}} to track the GLAM/NMM articles; that will at least give you the assessment statistics. Beyond that, I suppose we can play it by ear. If the NMM project wants more infrastructure, we can absorb it into MILHIST as a special project; if the additional infrastructure isn't needed, we can simply work with you as a partner GLAM project and just share the assessment tags.

I'll see what I can do about getting it mentioned in the Bugle as well. Kirill ^{[talk] [prof]} 13:58, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, "play it by ear" is right at this stage. The Land (talk) 19:45, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Query re GLAM:NMM info

Hi The Land, I have inferred that you are close to the NMM people. Is there any way we can contact them to figure out their sources, at least on an occasional basis? For instance, on Eagle (1812), ID#365985, I can verify/second source Yankee's capture of Eagle (and have included the info under HMS Poictiers (1809), but I have not been able to figure out what her name was when she was recaptured, who recaptured her, or anything else about her subsequent career. Clearly, NMM didn't make up the info, so where did they get it? If I could find that out, I could do some more Google-sleuthing. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 00:48, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll ask. I strongly suspect the answer is: primary sources. The Land (talk) 10:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

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WP:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators#Outreach

I mentioned your name here, hope that's okay (easier to ask forgiveness than permission!). - Dank (push to talk) 13:00, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Outreach...

Hi! Ref outreach and the discussion on the coord pages, do you fancy dropping me an email? Hchc2009 (talk) 11:47, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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Just heard the news

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Roald Dahl task force!

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DYK

Feel free to change, happy new year Victuallers (talk) 16:31, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for HMS Monmouth (1796)

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Hello. Thanks for your message. I'm behind on my emails and won't be doing Wiki stuff til a couple of weeks into Feb. I'll let you know if I don't see any WWI emails from you when I catch up. Thanks for letting me know. Oh. Damn. Just realised I'm not logged in. This is from User:Bodnotbod — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.78.153.38 (talk) 21:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Affair of the Sausages

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MSU Interview

Dear The Land,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

• Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
• Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
• All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
• All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
• The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at [email protected] (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at [email protected]. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 21:44, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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Grateful if you could get back to me asap please. Prioryman (talk) 19:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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MSU Interview

Dear The Land,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

• Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
• Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
• All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
• All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
• The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at [email protected] (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your nameHERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at [email protected]. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.9.115.210 (talk) 20:12, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello!

Yes indeed, very good to talk to you today. I hope I didn't go on at too much length about what just happened to be at the forefront of my editing mind! Jheald (talk) 23:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

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wood steam warships

Hello I'm a fifth year history student at UC Berkeley and I'm writing my thesis on the civilian effects on the development of the ironclad warship. I'm starting with wooden and iron steam warships and would be very interested in your existing bibliography for this page, as well as any other souces you may have. I have plenty of my own, but its always better to get more. I'd love to share any of my findings with you for use in your own research.

Thanks, Pete Adams PeteAdams89 (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure if this belongs here, my apologies if it does not...

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Editathon

Sorry babe, I'm unemployed so travel is out of the question. Interesting subjects though - I have a section on medical services at 3rd Ypres simmering and I've nearly finished Tactical Developments on the WF. PS what we need most are translations of French and German sources.Keith-264 (talk) 19:32, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Where are you based, if you don't mind me asking? If it's in the UK, we can cover travel costs. The Land (talk) 19:46, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I live in Hull.Keith-264 (talk) 20:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I thought you were probably a Brit! We could definitely pay your train fare, if the event's of interest to you. (It's an open offer to any UK Wikimedians who're interested, in case any of them are watching your talk page.) Very interesting work on the tactical developments in 1917, btw - it's great to see someone covering subjects that I always meant to work on! The Land (talk) 21:01, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not as pessimistic as I was yesterday so what are the details (of the money, that is ;O))?Keith-264 (talk) 07:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Can you drop me a line via email - either via email user or on chris dot keating @wikimedia.org.uk - we can talk privately! The Land (talk) 17:34, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello Chris,

Thanks for your response to my suggestions about WWI and art. I am hoping to participate virtually to help your excellent people and use your excellent resources to improve some of the articles about these artists. Happy to take up an offer of a train fare but I don't think it would help. :) More discussion is happening on my talk page so ... Whiteghost.ink (talk) 02:06, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Armored cruiser

Thanks for your comments on my work so far on this article. Left responses on the Talk page there; look forward to more from you and hopefully others as well. Jonyungk (talk) 14:04, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

SS Alster / Empire Endurance

It's been suggested at WT:MILHIST#Possible FAC that I ask you to try to find an image of SS Alster / Empire Endurance via the National Maritime Museums archive if they have one. Would you mind asking please? Mjroots (talk) 09:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

User talk:The ed17#Bugle

Just a quick poke regarding this. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:17, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Another poke. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 09:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

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Messines

You wrote: "I see there are several refs to someone called "Mallet" - who isn't listed in the bibliograph. Who, or what, is this work? And how much credence can we put on his casualty figures?" in 2009 and as I tidied the references earlier, I had a look through Amazon and Archives org with several permutations of the name, the great war, Messines etc and got nothing.Keith-264 (talk) 23:44, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipaedia anabasis, 16th June 2012.

The Wikipaedian reflected on the day out as his third pint of Guinness settled. Jeff "Son of Hendrix" Parsons of Reaction reached for his second guitar, at his joint sixtieth birthday party and band's twentieth anniversary gig. An early start had seen the purlieus of Hull disappear into the gloom. The journey to The Smoke was uneventful and his research for the day, (Dangerous Liaisons) left him feeling primed. He enjoyed the walk from King's Cross to the British Library. When a Hillman jumped the kerb and two men with kipper ties and questionable hair leapt out and wrestled a man to the ground shouting "We're The Sweeney, son and we haven't had our dinner yet!", The Wikipaedian refected that things were still a little different down here.

The staff on reception told him to get in the back of the library, where he met the organisers and participants. A rather interesting group of people as it turned out, with only one anorak on view; The Wikipaedian hung it over his chair. Someone brought him another pint from the bar as Reaction launched into "Long Train Running" which was apposite. Jeff was on his fourth guitar, leaning forward playing it behind his head and the lead singer had got his tambourine out. The Wikipaedian remarked over the music that it had been with a certain sense of surprise that he'd realised that everyone else at the Library had brought a laptop. The crowd had quickly divided into groups and got stuck in to editing articles associated with the Great War, as The Wikipaedian solicited sources for his areas of interest (translations of Von Kuhl and Crown Prince Rupprecht's writings about the Great War) and the possibility of cadging someone's floor near to the National Archives later this year.

Lunch had been served and after that there were talks by the Commonwealth War Grave and some of the Wikipaedia officials and then more editing. The other crowd (at The Railway, Cottingham) a mixture of grey panthers, proving that age hadn't diminished their ability to get their money's worth on a Saturday night and some younger souls, who had learned their instruments from Jeff at his day job, were moving to the beat. A tongue-in-cheek rendition of "Crocodile Rock" was followed by three original songs, as the lead singer got his breath back. Reaction's flashy crowd-pleasing steps made journeys from the bar an obstacle course, which The Wikipaedian negotiated skillfully; he had some flashy steps too. As Reaction shouted "Go!" The Wikipaedian enjoyed the memory of catching the train home and as Jeff climbed a table to blast the crowd with "You Give Love a Bad Name", he thought that these days Wikipaedia was giving history a rather good one.

Regards, Keith.Keith-264 (talk) 20:29, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Hope you found it useful! (And there were some spare laptops for just this purpose)> Thanks very much for coming. :-) The Land (talk) 19:20, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

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Poke

Hey The Land, I was wondering if you had any other comments on the protected cruisers FLC? Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 12:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Shoes and lapel badges

• User talk:Uncle G#hi
• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Neogeolegend
• Portal:Nazi Germany (MfD discussion)
• Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pedophilia userbox wheel war#Findings of fact

Why am I walking in your shoes? I don't want your shoes. They're all covered with arbitration dust. Here, have your smelly shoes back. ☺ Ironically, this also touches upon your interest in military history, and I suspect that you and others might have opinions on the portal worth giving. Uncle G (talk) 09:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Belated congrats

Congrats on your selection as chair of WMUK, although I wish it came under better circustances. I'm certain you are going to do a great job. Now, your first priority is more battleship content from British museums, right? ;-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 10:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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Comments on Battlecruiser article

You've done some good work on this article in the past and I'm looking to improve it enough to pass GA by adding sourcing and filling in gaps. But we're having our usual spat over what should be covered regarding the Deutschlands, Scharnhorsts and Dunkerques. Your opinions would be welcome, especially as the longer-term goal is to get this ready for FAC sometime this year.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:28, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Dreadnought

Hi Chris! This is just a note to let you know that I have nominated Dreadnought for a main page appearance. I hope you don't mind! Best, -- Dianna (talk) 03:02, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

I've scheduled it for 29th January (you should get a bot notice in due course) but I'd like you, or someone else who knows about these things, to look at the "fact" tag in footnote b. Thanks, Bencherlite^Talk 00:15, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

fiction vs. notability

I just noticed that you removed a number of items in the List_of_fictional_elements,_materials,_isotopes_and_atomic_particles article, in September 2012, for "unreferenced or non-notable" reasons. Please tell me what counts as non-notable in works of fiction, especially such famous works as "Doc" Smith's Lensman series...thanx. Silverhill (talk) 11:08, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Sure. If there are third-party, out-of-universe sources that discuss the fictional element or material, it's notable. If there aren't, it isn't. Being present in a well-known fictional work isn't sufficient, in my view. The Land (talk) 11:26, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I am now among the enlightened ones <g>...thanx for the clarification!

Silverhill (talk) 19:49, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Main page appearance: dreadnought

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The dreadnought was the predominant type of battleship in the early 20th century. The first of the kind, the Royal Navy's Dreadnought, had such an impact when launched in 1906 that similar subsequent battleships were referred to as "dreadnoughts". Her design had two revolutionary features: an "all-big-gun" armament scheme and steam turbine propulsion. The arrival of the dreadnoughts renewed the naval arms race, principally between the United Kingdom and Germany, as the new warships became a symbol of national power. The concept of an all-big-gun ship had been in development for several years before Dreadnought's construction. The Imperial Japanese Navy had begun work on an all-big-gun battleship in 1904, but finished the ship as a pre-dreadnought; the United States Navy was also building all-big-gun battleships (USS Texas pictured). Technical development continued rapidly through the dreadnought era and within ten years, new battleships outclassed Dreadnought herself. Most of the original dreadnoughts were scrapped after the end of World War I under the terms of the Washington Naval Treaty. Only one battle—the Battle of Jutland—was fought between large dreadnought fleets. (Full article...)

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Dreadnought

Hey Land, I made your scatter graph much larger so it is readable. Feel free to revert me if you don't like it! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 18:23, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Don't mind much, but I thought policy was not to define image widths, as people read on all sorts of different resolution screens? Though that may have changed, my knowledge of the MOS is several years old now! The Land (talk) 18:43, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

It's WP:IMGSIZE, which says not to define it "unless there is a good reason to do so", and WP:IMGSYN, which says "Images containing important detail (for example, a map, diagram, or chart) may need larger sizes than usual to make them readable." :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 18:48, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Precious

Dreadnought
Thank you for quality articles on battleships, such as Dreadnought, for "other things" you can be proud of, and for irony in editing, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 29 January 2013 (UTC)