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Adminship?

Hi there Tryptofish. I just had this crazy idea that you might want to think about. I was wondering if you'd ever be interested in being an admin. You seem experienced and clueful enough. Unless you've got any hidden skeletons, I'd be happy to nominate you if you'd like. Let me know if you're interested. AD 23:12, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Aiken, and thank you so very much! I am very flattered by what you said. I'm going to say "no thank you", for the time being, while leaving the door open for later on, like maybe a year from now. In brief, I personally do not feel ready for it yet, and I'm at a stage in real life when I temporarily cannot offer the project the additional time that this would take. I can explain all of that at greater length if you'd like, but that's the WP:KISS version. But sometime later: who knows. Thank you again for the very kind words. Best, --Tryptofish (talk) 00:05, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Even though I've archived subsequent talk threads, I'm intentionally leaving this thread at the top of my talk page. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:51, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

So, it's been two years since you were last asked... how about running for adminship now? It's really about time you went for it. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:40, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Agree (if you are interested). North8000 (talk) 12:03, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

That's awfully nice of you both, thanks. Actually, I've been asked a couple of times since then, so by now I'm starting to feel guilty about saying no. I still pretty much feel the same way, but I'll continue to think about it. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Even though I've archived subsequent talk threads, I'm intentionally leaving this thread at the top of my talk page. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Transcluding "Wikipedia:Notability (summary)" onto "Wikipedia:Notability"

Hi Tryptofish. I just took a look back at our thread. Thank you for collapsing the transcluded "Wikipedia:Notability (summary)" there. I have also commented on your vote there; I would be honored if you would go back there and reply again. Cheers, Unforgettableid (talk) 00:59, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:13, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Your perspective on an essay

Hi, Tryptofish. I'm remembering your good work at the Tyler Clementi suicide article and wonder if you'd be willing to look over an essay currently in user space but bound for main space soon. It was drafted by User:Timtrent (aka Fiddle Faddle) and revised collaboratively by him and me. Some background discussion is on my talk page. If you get the chance, I'd be grateful for your input. Rivertorch (talk) 10:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much for asking me. I just gave it a quick look. I was worried that I might disagree with it, but I actually like it very much. In my opinion, it's quite good just as it is. But I'll go through it more carefully sometime in the next few days. For a variety of reasons, my editing time has been a little less than usual lately, so it may take me a while. (By the way, the discussion on your talk page was quite entertaining!) --Tryptofish (talk) 21:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Heh. We aim to entertain. About the essay, there's no rush; I mostly wanted to know if we'd blundered badly before it leaves user space. Rivertorch (talk) 21:30, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I keep wondering of now is the time to launch this essay or not. I suspect waiting until he current set of Wisdom of Crowds opinions has died down would be better. Frankly the immediate re-opening of the move discussion, had it bee a re-AfD would likely have got the wise and good editor who did it a severe talking to. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 20:42, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

I say wait (not that you asked me). Rivertorch (talk) 21:29, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

I knew you would be watching here :) Fiddle Faddle (talk) 21:49, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, you are both very welcome here. I think it might be prudent to wait until after the multi-move discussion (that I just inflamed) has reached its conclusion, lest it be seen as trying to sway the discussion. Otherwise, I don't think it's a big deal to move the essay. It's an essay, not proposed policy, and inevitably it will continue to be edited after you move it. As I said before, I think it's quite presentable. Myself, I've been having rather little time to edit lately (personal reasons), but I will try to spend some time on it when I can. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:57, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

It's hard not to inflame that particular discussion. I rather wonder what those who loved the young lady whose associated article's talk mage they are making a mess of would think. The human race is, at times, impossible to underestimate. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 22:12, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. Well, it's quite properly an open wiki, and we, collectively, are just a reflection of what's out there (as I tried to explain to a newish editor in that talk). --Tryptofish (talk) 22:42, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

The newish editor is an interesting case. He achieved an early indef block, and now seems to have a following of disciples. IT amazes me how many people are here to make points about things instead of actually creating and editing articles. I wonder if this is a reflection of society as a whole, and it is time to build a new set of arks. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 07:15, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

The essay is now live at Wikipedia:Articles on suicides Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Good! It's on my watchlist, and I'll see if I can work on it when I have more time. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:55, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Ambassador resources

I think we're going to try to point that Ambassadors resources page to Wikipedia:Training/For_Ambassadors/Resources soon, as part of the effort to redirect as many of the old and assorted education-related pages into as few places as possible. So that's the place to add links.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 16:40, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done, thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:14, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

BTW, in case I've not said so before, really excellent work on that page from you and Biosthmors. What Kevin Gorman said when he gave you a barnstar in January... same from me. :) --Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 19:17, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

In a case of crossed messages, I just left an appreciative message on your talk, while you were writing this here! Thank you very much! Yes, I think that WP:ASSIGN has the potential to help a lot, or at least I hope so. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

After the heated RM discussion

You may find Talk:Murder of Daniel Tupý refreshing, where an Rm to rename it thus was supported unanimously. It overlapped the prior one, but the combatants were not drawn to it.

An interesting question now is the name of the article on the murder of the young gentleman who died on a fence in laramie. It really ought to be about his murder, not a pseudo-bio. Fiddle Faddle (talk)

Long time no see

EEng (talk) 01:03, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi! It's good to hear from you. I've been around, although I've temporarily been a little busy lately, so I haven't been quite as active editing as I usually am. But things are well with me, and I hope they are with you too. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Discussion of inclusion of Kyoto Prize in criterion 2

Please Participate in Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(academics)#Inclusion of Pulitzer Prize for History — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solomon7968 (talk • contribs) 18:06, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for asking me. I'll try, but I might not get to it right away. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:03, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Category:Critics and criticism of animal rights

Category:Critics and criticism of animal rights, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 21:45, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Replied. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:41, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Request for name change

Hi Tryptofish, I have a small request: are you able to change my username? Across the Internet I have otherwise retired the name 'invinciblegavin', and I now use the name 'ikonikre'. I would very much appreciate your help here, or any advice about the matter. Thanks for your time. Ikonikre/Invinciblegavin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Invinciblegavin (talk • contribs) 20:59, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I'd be happy to help, but I don't have that ability. You need to have a bureaucrat do it. You can find instructions on exactly how to do it at WP:RENAME. Good luck, and I hope that helps! --Tryptofish (talk) 23:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Advice

Sorry why do you say is a bad idea? Thanks. I have tried to join discussions and some editors ignore me on purpose. nevermindthebollocks (talk) 21:10, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll reply on your talk page. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Warning-->block

Hey Tryptofish, please don't think that I overruled you as a supermight admin or something like that--I responded at User talk:Booklaunch with an explanation. Had I not seen more I wouldn't have blocked after your note. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:19, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Aside from the fact that I nearly had an MI when I saw the header here, it's all fine! I was figuring that I'd give them a sort of last chance before heading over to ANI, but there's really no doubt in my mind about what the final outcome was going to be, and I agree with you all the way. And I didn't even know about the SPI. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:37, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, a heart attack, as us layfolk call it. I hadn't thought about that effect but I'll keep it in mind; I do like headings. So--you're a fish in three panels? And you're a Dr. too! Congratulations! Did you write your own article yet? Are you on the board of one of those Indian journals that keep spamming me? Beer or wine? Have you met User:Randykitty? The name notwithstanding he's a highly serious neuroscientist or something like that who is living the high life in France, damn traitor, while we're slaving away. I hope you have a better job than me; stupid Research Council just denied my application for a sabbatical. Ah, that's making me feel better already. Happy days, Drmies (talk) 23:55, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Currently swilling beer (Hoegaarden, Leffe, Con Domus, Nostra Domus, and Pilaarbijter) in Belgium at a meeting! (A scientific meeting, of course... :-) And Tryptofish and I run into one another from time to time at the Society for Neuroscience meetings. Cheers to both of you! --Randykitty (talk) 07:45, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, oh, good... Drmies (talk) 17:48, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Tryptofish, just wanted to stop by and say thanks for cleaning up the "bollocks" that were left over. Zad68 02:36, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello everybody! I'm so glad to check back here and find that I am neither blocked nor warned of a block. Yes, Zad, there was a good deal that needed to be cleaned up yesterday, glad to do it. Drmies, I used to have tenure at a US university, but I successfully sued them and am financially independent now, so yes, I'd say that I have a rather good job now, but far from slaving away. (No tryptych, just tryptophan, but the name is really a red herring.) Randykitty, I think that I may have just realized who you are, but I have to admit that I didn't recognize this username until just now. --Tryptofish (talk) 15:03, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Tryptofish, I need the name of that lawyer. My dean tried to laugh it away this morning, that's all he could do (or wanted to do). I used to think a sabbatical was a right; apparently you only get it when you already have a book contract in hand. Drmies (talk) 17:48, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

On the evolutionary scale, deans are (slightly) above bacteria, and (far) below cockroaches. I'm in the US, and I figure the Research Council is the one in the UK, so my lawyer won't be any good for you, sorry. Where I am, we have at-will employment, and that means employees have almost no rights. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:57, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll tell him you said so. No, the Research Council is here on our campus in the great state of Alabama. It's made up of a jury of my peers and a couple of deanlets, I suppose, who, I'm told rank the proposals they get and are under no obligation to explain their rankings. at-will--I suppose you're in the South as well. I just hope it isn't Arkansas. Tennessee? Hey, no state tax! Though it sucks to show ID every time you go to the liquor store, when everyone sees the forty-odd in your face (and mine). Drmies (talk) 01:53, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, a different Council, woops. I'm in the US, but not where you suggested, and nowhere near to you, and my lawyer wouldn't practice in your state. (At-will is nationwide; you may be thinking instead of right to work.) I'm a stickler for not giving away who I am in real life, so I'm not going to be any more specific than that about where I am. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:17, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

RfA

Hi Tryptofish! Thanks for you congratulations and your support. I'm not sure this is a tool set I really wanted to have, but hopefully I'll do ok with it. :) - Bilby (talk) 15:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure, and I know you'll do very well. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:11, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Jarble

Seeing as you also watch the Urination article, and have dealt with Jarble's ridiculous excessiveness, perhaps you wouldn't mind taking a stab at weighing in on this matter? I barely have any patience left for him, as seen here and here for two more examples. Flyer22 (talk) 05:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I've made some WP:BOLD edits lately, and I've transcluded sections of some articles into other articles, without duplicating them directly. This dispute seems to center around the question of whether or not transclusion is considered a type of WP:Content forking, despite the fact that it doesn't create multiple versions of the same article. Transclusion and content forking are two completely different things, as far as I know. So far, I haven't seen any official guidelines about this issue, and I need further clarification, so that I can decide whether my edits have been helpful or not. Jarble (talk) 05:49, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I've replied to Jarble on his talk page, where it is clearly shown that he has been duplicating articles in sections. I leave the rest of this particular matter to you, Tryptofish, or to someone else. Flyer22 (talk) 06:16, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

As I've said before, WP:Content forking and WP:Transclusion are two completely different things. The article about transclusion doesn't mention content forking, and the article about content forking doesn't mention transclusion, so it isn't clear how they're related (since transclusion, by definition, doesn't create multiple versions or "forks" of the same page). Jarble (talk) 06:22, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I'll revert my edits if necessary, but I still haven't found any guidelines that argue for or against transclusion, so I'm not sure what I should do yet. :/ Jarble (talk) 06:24, 9 June 2013 (UTC)